FBI raids Trumps home

[Route 45]

A good explanation of possible applicable statues that may be used to charge Trump. Doesn't seem biased, just an explanation of avenues of potential prosecution, if it comes to that.

Expert Backgrounder: Criminal Statutes that Could Apply to Trump's Retention of Government Documents

Experts survey the possible crimes underlying search warrants executed at Mar-a-Lago.

www.justsecurity.org

The most likely, according to the article:

18 U.S.C. 2071 – Concealment, Removal, or Mutilation Generally​

This is perhaps the most-discussed statute since the search, including because it carries as one of its penalties the possible disqualification from holding public office. (Whether that disqualification could apply to the presidency, or whether it would be an impermissible variation of the constitutionally established qualifications for that office, is a question for another day.) Section 2071 makes it a crime to willfully and unlawfully remove a government record with the intent to conceal or destroy it or to conceal or destroy such documents already in one’s custody. This is a more attractive statute for a prosecutor to apply to Trump than Section 1924, mainly because it does not require that the documents be classified – it applies to all government records.

 

[dlandersson]

Whatever is going on here you simply do not set a precedent by going after a former POTUS and potential future candidate by doing an unprecedented search warrant when it could've been handled first in a much less politically motivated perceived fashion by issuing a subpoena.

You're missing the point. Think "petty". Think Pelosi's response when asked why indict Trump when it will never pass the senate. Her response : "He will have been impeached". Ranking Dems do not like him.

 

[Super Bee]

A good explanation of possible applicable statues that may be used to charge Trump. Doesn't seem biased, just an explanation of avenues of potential prosecution, if it comes to that.

And it will come to that. He has pissed off a lot of politicians on both sides of the isle and they are ready to put him back in his place.

 

[Onebad06vtx]

Got him on what? We’re going to start believing the ****ing liars now? Why is that?

What ever bogus charges they planted that will fit there agenda!
I mean have you not noticed that they will do anything possible to keep him out of the WH

 

[Keith_Indy]

Ya know, it don't matter. Anyone interested in LIBERTY knows we need a fighter in the White House, not a milquetoast establishment sop who will go along to get along because TPTB who pull the strings have dirt on them.

If that's Trump, great, an ex SEAL advisor, yale + harvard educated, appealing fighter (whose press secretary just quit, to become his campaigns press secretary.)

Or some other, GENUINE FIGHTER FOR LIBERTY

THE GOVERNMENT IS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE

I don't want to sound all ranty, but what the RIGHT needs to do is return this country back to it's roots, as in LIBERTY and the PROTECTION OF CIVIL RIGHTS

The MAJORITY is supposed to protect the rights of the MINORITY not force their way on them. Whether it is Christians trying to force gays to not be gay, or MARXISTS trying to make little boys into little girls, neither ought to be allowed, because of the coercion, not the ideology, the harming of innocents.

Your right to swing your arm, your dick, or your divisive ideology ends at my face, our kids or our institutions.

Nobody ought to be COERCED into doing things outside the bounds of their CONCIOUS CHOICE.

 

[BigRed]

Secession is underrated.

 

[tbhausen]

This is not a time and a place for *******! Some people are… DJT isn’t. I can’t believe anyone is ready to just believe whatever the corrupt central state might come up with while they’ve had all the time (and opportunity!) in the world to plant evidence. They’re proven LIARS. Don’t be a ***** and roll over and give up now. Hasn’t anyone learned anything from the Democrats? They stick together like flies on horse ****. Just like that POS inflation bill they passed today… unanimous except for three no-shows. They are drawing the lines. They’re making the rules. It’s time we played by their rules and STICK TOGETHER.

 

[Ingomike]

Wouldn't logic tell us that if President Trump (or anyone) was in the sole possession of self-incriminating documents, he would just destroy them? What would be the purpose of retaining them? It would be all risk and no reward.

Some are to stupid to figure this out…

 

[Ingomike]

A good explanation of possible applicable statues that may be used to charge Trump. Doesn't seem biased, just an explanation of avenues of potential prosecution, if it comes to that.

Expert Backgrounder: Criminal Statutes that Could Apply to Trump's Retention of Government Documents

Experts survey the possible crimes underlying search warrants executed at Mar-a-Lago.

www.justsecurity.org

The most likely, according to the article:

18 U.S.C. 2071 – Concealment, Removal, or Mutilation Generally​

This is perhaps the most-discussed statute since the search, including because it carries as one of its penalties the possible disqualification from holding public office. (Whether that disqualification could apply to the presidency, or whether it would be an impermissible variation of the constitutionally established qualifications for that office, is a question for another day.) Section 2071 makes it a crime to willfully and unlawfully remove a government record with the intent to conceal or destroy it or to conceal or destroy such documents already in one’s custody. This is a more attractive statute for a prosecutor to apply to Trump than Section 1924, mainly because it does not require that the documents be classified – it applies to all government records.

Is it in the constitution or not? Cite the constitution to refute…

 

[Ingomike]

This is not a time and a place for *******! Some people are… DJT isn’t. I can’t believe anyone is ready to just believe whatever the corrupt central state might come up with while they’ve had all the time (and opportunity!) in the world to plant evidence. They’re proven LIARS. Don’t be a ***** and roll over and give up now. Hasn’t anyone learned anything from the Democrats? They stick together like flies on horse ****. Just like that POS inflation bill they passed today… unanimous except for three no-shows. They are drawing the lines. They’re making the rules. It’s time we played by their rules and STICK TOGETHER.

But, But, But…

**** you that say that…

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Some are to stupid to figure this out…

Too*

 

[KG1]

A good explanation of possible applicable statues that may be used to charge Trump. Doesn't seem biased, just an explanation of avenues of potential prosecution, if it comes to that.

Expert Backgrounder: Criminal Statutes that Could Apply to Trump's Retention of Government Documents

Experts survey the possible crimes underlying search warrants executed at Mar-a-Lago.

www.justsecurity.org

The most likely, according to the article:

18 U.S.C. 2071 – Concealment, Removal, or Mutilation Generally​

This is perhaps the most-discussed statute since the search, including because it carries as one of its penalties the possible disqualification from holding public office. (Whether that disqualification could apply to the presidency, or whether it would be an impermissible variation of the constitutionally established qualifications for that office, is a question for another day.) Section 2071 makes it a crime to willfully and unlawfully remove a government record with the intent to conceal or destroy it or to conceal or destroy such documents already in one’s custody. This is a more attractive statute for a prosecutor to apply to Trump than Section 1924, mainly because it does not require that the documents be classified – it applies to all government records.

That’s some pretty damn thin bull**** if you ask me. That takes establishing criminal intent.

Now certainly they were willfully taken but were they unlawfully taken with criminal intent. That has yet to be established.

 

[KLB]

Not by much...

I can't believe you are that ignorant.

 

[Ziggidy]

Nobody ought to be COERCED into doing things outside the bounds of their CONCIOUS CHOICE.

I think that is one of the problems - a biggie too! Who defines coercion? Who defines willing indoctrination?

The line in the sand has been moved many times and words are still being redefined.

 

[jamil]

I wonder where advocates of secession fit in......




Just kidding.

Secession for the sake of secession? Have you thought that out? You don’t like the central state. So your area secedes. Then that area becomes the central state. Oh ****. Can’t have that. Better secede. I’ll save you the recursion, it’s secession all the way down to the individual. Which, in a sense, as an individualist, it’s a little orgasmic to think about. Pragmatically, it can’t work. It’s incompatible with human nature.

Where does that fit on the political compass? It’s essentially anarchism, which falls on the libertarian end of the vertical axis. Anarchism has a left and right extreme, so that’s the horizontal axis. This would be right wing anarchism because it’s individualist and not collectivist. So where you would fit on the political compass is in the libertarian-right quadrant.

How far you wish to recurse the layers of secession would determine how deep into that quadrant you are. So if all the way to the individual, that’s the extreme. You can’t secede from yourself. You can, I guess, but at that point you’d be a nihilist. A dead one.

 

[Sylynsur]

I love how trump himself appointed the fbi director who signed off on this … and I’m sure 4 years ago you were all praising trumps choice and not one single person claimed the fbi director was a commie democrat mole….

Oh how the tables turn. Y’all don’t even know what to think at this point lollllllll pretty funny watching the mental gymnastics here .

 

[Sylynsur]

I cannot recall if I have mentioned before that the fbi needs to be abolished.

Wait hold up? Aren’t we all backing the blue ? Should I take the thin blue line flag off my car. Roof . Front lawn ? Back yard?? All of them ???? I’m so confused!?!??

 

[tomcat13]

 

[Sylynsur]

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You might want to do some research on the separation of the branches of government

Something tells me your Facebook meme skills did not come from any type of law school education lol

 

[Leadeye]

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GARLAND SAYS RAIDING MELANIAS CLOSET WAS JUSTIFIED.

He had to say that he approved the raid whether he did or not. He's the man in charge, to say anything else would be a confession that the #resist people are running the DOJ.