Damaged Omega from a range....

[Cameramonkey]

Me thinks you have given it away.

Especially the lack of west side ranges, and mention of trains nearby.

Sad if true. Folks that I know and trust there are upstanding and I would be absolutely SHOCKED that one of them would have done such a stupid move. (Im confident it was someone there I dont know) I mean, come on. its 5 freakin minutes. likely less.

 

[Nicu757]

I agree I have always have had good people there. But over the last year they have had a lot of new young faces that don't seem to know firearms or one thing about class 3 items. I transfered a lower in there a 9mm QC 10 and they called it in as a rifle without even asking me! The guy came back with the 4473 and I asked if he called it in and he did as a rifle.
i tried to explain that this was a issue and he talks down to me how it's a grey area with lower and blah blah blah. I didn't really
care because I form 1 it right away but maybe I did want to put a pistol grip on it before I got my form 1 back. After that no more
transfers threw there. It seems like they employee people who are not gun people now and just want to take you DL and money and tell you a lane. When they first opened was very happy now not so much. Especially now. The guy handling the suppressor when I waked in didn't even know what kind it was till I told him and I was 15 feet away.

 

[T.Lex]

Wait wait wait.

West side?

Don's Guns. It was Don's Guns, wasn't it?

 

[ghitch75]

1 question......if it was laying on the ground and got shot twice someone had to be shooting at it?.......right?......

 

[OneBadV8]

Wait wait wait.

West side?

Don's Guns. It was Don's Guns, wasn't it?

 

[churchmouse]

1 question......if it was laying on the ground and got shot twice someone had to be shooting at it?.......right?......

Of course. There are douche nozzles everywhere.

 

[VUPDblue]

The way I see it, the range is liable for any damage that occurred AFTER it was launched downrange. Their failure to retrieve it, knowing the value of the item, weighed against the extreme risk of additional damage caused by the dangerous environment, was negligent.

 

[Trigger Time]

Yep range is liable.

I personaly hate the mounting features of the omega. If anyone else wants a great solution to this problem check out the adapter Dead Air makes for silencerco cans.
The dead air mount is the best on the market in my opinion and even has a secondary backup just in case you don't get your suppressor tightened properl, it won't just fly downrange like this omega did. Also indexing is always the same so point of impact is consistent everytime

 

[ghitch75]

The way I see it, the range is liable for any damage that occurred AFTER it was launched downrange. Their failure to retrieve it, knowing the value of the item, weighed against the extreme risk of additional damage caused by the dangerous environment, was negligent.

yes i agree 100% the range should buy the OP a new can for being irresponsible ....

 

[mandreko]

The way I see it, the range is liable for any damage that occurred AFTER it was launched downrange. Their failure to retrieve it, knowing the value of the item, weighed against the extreme risk of additional damage caused by the dangerous environment, was negligent.

This is how I see it too. Sure, the item ended up at the end of the range, and had some minor cosmetic damage. However, it's the range that prevented the cease-fire, and allowed people to continue shooting at it for hours, leading to it getting hit by multiple rounds.

 

[Rookie]

1 question......if it was laying on the ground and got shot twice someone had to be shooting at it?.......right?......

I wouldn't be too surprised if it was hit by accident. I've seen (and fixed) an indoor range, and I've seen shots that I still can't understand how someone managed it. I watched a shooter aim at a target seven yards away, take their time, line up the sights, let out an easy breath, gently squeeze the trigger, and place a shot in the light on the ceiling THAT WAS THREE FEET AWAY!

So, maybe it was intentional, but I'm inclined to believe it was accidental. Regardless, the range owes you a new can.

 

[Hkindiana]

OK, I will address the elephant in the room. Why would Omega fix this under warranty if the ONLY damage is the EXTERNAL bullet strikes, as it is NOT THEIR FAULT? When I launched a can, it was covered under warranty because of internal baffle strikes AND the manufacturers admission that when my mount was manufactured it was somehow cross threaded. If the Omega has internal baffle strikes, then it needs to be replaced ANYWAY, with or without the external bullet strikes. If THAT is the case (internal baffle strikes) then why would the range be responsible for paying for the repairs, since it was already ruined the moment it laubched off of the weapon? In that case, I would think the range would only be liable for the cover.
In my case, the manufacturer replaced my can AND gave me a free .22 can to cover the transfer and dealer fees. Unfortunately, their WAS the six month wait. I agree with the other posts, and would NEVER have left without my class 3 item

 

[Rookie]

Why would Omega fix it? Great customer service is worth more than one suppressor.

 

[T.Lex]

Isn't part of the issue that the mount could fail in the absence of a baffle strike? That is, the influx of gasses is what caused the launch? If I'm wrong on that, and there was no/minimal internal damage, then I think Hkindiana has some good points.

If the can was going to be a warranty replacement as soon as it launched, the rest is kinda moot. If they could've re-used the cover, then the range should be on the hook for that loss.

 

[Cameramonkey]

OK, I will address the elephant in the room. Why would Omega fix this under warranty if the ONLY damage is the EXTERNAL bullet strikes, as it is NOT THEIR FAULT? When I launched a can, it was covered under warranty because of internal baffle strikes AND the manufacturers admission that when my mount was manufactured it was somehow cross threaded. If the Omega has internal baffle strikes, then it needs to be replaced ANYWAY, with or without the external bullet strikes. If THAT is the case (internal baffle strikes) then why would the range be responsible for paying for the repairs, since it was already ruined the moment it laubched off of the weapon? In that case, I would think the range would only be liable for the cover.
In my case, the manufacturer replaced my can AND gave me a free .22 can to cover the transfer and dealer fees. Unfortunately, their WAS the six month wait. I agree with the other posts, and would NEVER have left without my class 3 item

Only one reason I know of; positive customer service. I've seen companies bend over backwards and do stuff for customers in the name of good will.

 

[Rookie]

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[mandreko]

Isn't part of the issue that the mount could fail in the absence of a baffle strike? That is, the influx of gasses is what caused the launch? If I'm wrong on that, and there was no/minimal internal damage, then I think Hkindiana has some good points.

If the can was going to be a warranty replacement as soon as it launched, the rest is kinda moot. If they could've re-used the cover, then the range should be on the hook for that loss.

There were no baffle strikes. The internals were fine, somehow, other than the baffles that were dented from the bullet impacts.

 

[Benp]

Yep, I think it just needs to be covered by the range.

 

[DanVoils]

Wow. They should take care of it 100%. Is the reason the range isn't being formally named that they are an INGO advertiser?

 

[Indy-Mike]

Wow. They should take care of it 100%. Is the reason the range isn't being formally named that they are an INGO advertiser?

Is that why whenever I look at this thread their ad banner is at the top?