I haveYou should see my cheap-o Ford Escape.
I haveYou should see my cheap-o Ford Escape.
not in a while.I have
That's not entirely fair. Not everyone has the disposable income or the need to drop $3-4K (or more) on a mower. For those folks, the big box stores serve a purpose.So what have we learned here?
I learned that there are a bunch of cheapskates, that to save a buck, are happy to buy from a big box store rather than a local dealer that hires full time employees, offers service, and local parts. (Although due to the cheapskates buying online dealers now cannot afford to stock what they once did.)
So what have we learned here?
I learned that there are a bunch of cheapskates, that to save a buck, are happy to buy from a big box store rather than a local dealer that hires full time employees, offers service, and local parts. (Although due to the cheapskates buying online dealers now cannot afford to stock what they once did.)
My 100 series came from a dealer.
And was serviced by the dealer.
What's your point?
Mine too.My 100 series came from a dealer.
And was serviced by the dealer.
What's your point?
That's not entirely fair. Not everyone has the disposable income or the need to drop $3-4K (or more) on a mower. For those folks, the big box stores serve a purpose.
I understand, but if we are talking apples to apples (say for a 100 series JD) the savings might make a difference to some people. I did get mine from a dealer, just as actaeon did, but for some folks, saving the extra money might make the difference between owning a JD and owning a Yard Machine.I would hope we could keep it apples to apples. If one needs a $100 mower, for example, go get it at the big box store, there are logical reason to do so. The topic is $3000 mowers what is best.
Well if you don't want me to jump on them, tuck them in!Sure.
Just jump on my coattails.
I understand, but if we are talking apples to apples (say for a 100 series JD) the savings might make a difference to some people. I did get mine from a dealer, just as actaeon did, but for some folks, saving the extra money might make the difference between owning a JD and owning a Yard Machine.
But you know that Toro is just another MTD brand now, right? Regardless of whether it comes from a dealer or big box? The old Toro is dead. And do the people working at big box stores not belong to the local community?I have personally never seen much difference in price for the same models, dealer vs. big box, but I don't shop bigger mowers often. A Toro snow blower was $50 difference and that dealer will put his customers to the top of the list. 10-15% difference the get better service is in my value system and I support the local community and jobs.
But you know that Toro is just another MTD brand now, right? Regardless of whether it comes from a dealer or big box? The old Toro is dead. And do the people working at big box stores not belong to the local community?
I'd reckon the people working those jobs must be happier to have them than sitting on their butts at home getting the government dole or extended enhanced unemployment benefits. What benefits the community more? A small mom & pop shop that employs 10 people, or a big box store that employs 500 people, albeit at (maybe) a lower wage?Show me the community enhanced with big box stores and their part time low pay jobs...
I'd reckon the people working those jobs must be happier to have them than sitting on their butts at home getting the government dole or extended enhanced unemployment benefits. What benefits the community more? A small mom & pop shop that employs 10 people, or a big box store that employs 500 people, albeit at (maybe) a lower wage?
Look, if you want to support the mom & pop shops, that's cool! If you want to be a brand snob, that's cool too. Just realize that those things aren't an option for everyone.
Toro is not an MTD brand. Sorry.But you know that Toro is just another MTD brand now, right? Regardless of whether it comes from a dealer or big box? The old Toro is dead. And do the people working at big box stores not belong to the local community?
Maybe I was thinking of Troy-Bilt, but as you said, MTD does make the lower end Toro stuff, but as you also pointed out, under contract.Toro is not an MTD brand. Sorry.
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I know that I get Toro and Troy-Bilt, which IS an MTD brand, confused in my head a lot.
Toro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toro_(company)
THAT said - the lower end Toro equipment sold at Home Depot does appear to be made by MTD on contract. (from the Wiki link)
Guess that means that it all depends on if any particular Toro implement is MTD or not. But keep in mind that even if a sub contractor makes a "thing" then that thing still must meet exacting specifications.
Bought my Bad Boy ZTR from a dealer. I actually looked at more than 1 dealer, and researched both the brand a bit and the dealers.I have personally never seen much difference in price for the same models, dealer vs. big box, but I don't shop bigger mowers often. A Toro snow blower was $50 difference and that dealer will put his customers to the top of the list. 10-15% difference the get better service is in my value system and I support the local community and jobs.