COVID OMICRON Thread

[d.kaufman]

Does he have a better chance at survival with a new heart and the vaccine, or his current heart and no vaccine? Sounds like he’s possibly too sick to even be moved to another hospital,

You left out an option. Id say it stands to reason his best chance is a new heart with no jab.

We do know that the jabs CAN cause heart issues. So why would you take that chance with a bad ticker already? If he's already in the hospital, I'm sure they're testing for the Fauchi Flu hourly, daily, weekly, etc. Id have to bet he's testing negative everytime or it would be mentioned. And even if he did test positive that means he has antibodies that have proven to be more effective than the jab.

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This reeks of medical malpractice to me. Just my of course

 

[jsharmon7]

You left out an option. Id say it stands to reason his best chance is a new heart with no jab.

We do know that the jabs CAN cause heart issues. So why would you take that chance with a bad ticker already? If he's already in the hospital, I'm sure they're testing for the Fauchi Flu hourly, daily, weekly, etc. Id have to bet he's testing negative everytime or it would be mentioned. And even if he did test positive that means he has antibodies that have proven to be more effective than the jab.

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This reeks of medical malpractice to me. Just my of course

The hospital isn’t going to do it, so it’s not an option. There’s a lot of precedent for not giving organ transplants to “non-compliant” patients, so I’m sure there have been lawsuits. I wonder how differently this one would be viewed. I don’t have a dog in this fight, it’s just an interesting case. Hopefully @HoughMade will weigh in, since this is his area.

 

[jsx1043]

30,000 foot view:

They are withholding treatment to a patient who is stabilized at the moment.

They would not be asking about the vaccination status of the cop who was just shot and is bleeding out that was just rushed to the hospital in the back of a blood-soaked police car.

It is absolutely political.

 

[actaeon277]

Florida shuts monoclonal antibody treatment sites after FDA sets new limits

So the FDA yanked the EUA for the two most common monoclonal antibody treatments used in treating the 'Rona.

They say...



Seems odd they have that kind of data so quickly. Wonder where their data is showing how 'active' any of the vaccines are against the dreaded omicron?

Okay.
So I guess if you get Delta, you're just F'd.

 

[jamil]

Okay.
So I guess if you get Delta, you're just F'd.

It would be rare. Delta is pretty much wiped out. But I guess still possible.

 

[actaeon277]

It would be rare. Delta is pretty much wiped out. But I guess still possible.

One in a million, there is still the one.
Does this mean he's F'd.

 

[jamil]

Florida shuts monoclonal antibody treatment sites after FDA sets new limits

So the FDA yanked the EUA for the two most common monoclonal antibody treatments used in treating the 'Rona.

They say...



Seems odd they have that kind of data so quickly. Wonder where their data is showing how 'active' any of the vaccines are against the dreaded omicron?

Maybe they have the data so quickly because Omicron has progressed so quickly. We’ve already peaked in cases and are on the way down in this wave. Really it just looks more like a spike than a wave.

 

[MCgrease08]

With Omicron why is there a requirement to be vaccinated? I suspect that’s political, at least a little.

Alex Berenson was on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show today essentially pleading with TPTB to stop vaccinations. He reports that new data out of Israel, Denmark and Australia shows that the mRNA vaccines are actually causing Omicron to spread more easily, therefore making it more likely that those who are vaccinated will end up hospitalized or dead.

Here are four facts:

1: Both the within-country and the between-country data show that people who are vaccinated but not boosted are at higher risk of Omicron infection than the unvaccinated.

Anyone who says otherwise is lying.

2: Thus vaccines will actually make hospitalization or death from Omicron MORE likely unless they somehow protect against serious outcomes from Covid infections more than they increase the odds of infection. That’s simple math.

At this point we have no way of knowing how those two factors interact. In other words, we do not know if Omicron is more dangerous to the unvaccinated than the vaccinated (putting aside any vaccine side effects).

Anyone who says otherwise is lying.

3: It is unclear whether the vaccines interfere with the development of long-term post-infection immunity in people who are infected with Omicron.

Anyone who says otherwise is lying.

4: It is clear that a third vaccine dose temporarily reduces the risk of serious illness or death from Omicron.

But it is unclear how long that protection will last, and whether when it ends people who have received a third dose will be less or more vulnerable than those who are unvaccinated or have received two doses.

Anyone who says otherwise is lying.

Put these four facts together and it is clear that to encourage booster shots for anyone - including the elderly - at this point is reckless, bordering on criminal.

AN URGENT WARNING

The world's most mRNA vaccinated countries now have shockingly high Covid infection rates. Hospitalizations and deaths are rising fast too. The mRNA experiment needs to stop. Immediately.

alexberenson.substack.com

 

[Hatin Since 87]

INGO is blessed with so many cardiologist.

Where did you get your medical degree? You seem to be giving an awful lot of medical advice, and then telling those that disagree that their opinions aren’t valid because they don’t have a medical degree... kinda retarded isn’t it? (Can I say that if I don’t have a degree in mental health?)

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Don't know if this video from Dr. John Campbell has been posted yet...

OOPS! Crap, this doesn't fit the narrative...

 

[OkieGirl]

And here we go again, Folks...another variant on the looseOmicron BA.2 Variant:

 

[jamil]

One in a million, there is still the one.
Does this mean he's F'd.

Depends how bad his case is I guess. He could be ****ed anyway because the monoclonal antibodies are hit or miss. It sure has seemed to work for some prominent people. But I think it should be available anyway.

 

[actaeon277]

Depends how bad his case is I guess. He could be ****ed anyway because the monoclonal antibodies are hit or miss. It sure has seemed to work for some prominent people. But I think it should be available anyway.

If they're going with the argument that it is ineffective against Omicron, I would argue the same could be said of the vaccines.

 

[OkieGirl]

Lets see. Vaccines are shown to cause heart issues. Check. Already have heart issues. Check. So let's force someone who has a heart problem to get a vaccine that can cause heart problems, in order to get a new heart. Makes sense to me

Totally makes sense...just like 108 seemingly healthy FIFA soccer players didn't die last year, in a six month window, after receiving the jab.
See - Reuters fact checked it...and said it's not proof...

Fact Check-List of ‘108 FIFA soccer players’ is not proof of a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and athlete deaths

Widespread claims that 108 FIFA soccer players have died in a six-month period in 2021 are not based in fact – nor are suggestions that the alleged deaths are linked to COVID-19 vaccines.

www.reuters.com

It's really weird though because I used their link to find a rather thorough article with clearly sourced data that kinda makes their claim of 'not proof' sound like complete crap... Five fold increase in sudden cardiac death

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Totally makes sense...just like 108 seemingly healthy FIFA soccer players didn't die last year, in a six month window, after receiving the jab. See - Reuters fact checked it...and said it's not proof.

Fact Check-List of ‘108 FIFA soccer players’ is not proof of a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and athlete deaths

Widespread claims that 108 FIFA soccer players have died in a six-month period in 2021 are not based in fact – nor are suggestions that the alleged deaths are linked to COVID-19 vaccines.

www.reuters.com

I had this discussion with a guy at work last week. I got Covid and when I came back he preached to me about the vaccine. I showed him the amount of soccer players deaths this year vs previous years. He said they’ve always had players die from heart attacks... yup, they have, but not at this rate. We called it truce. Everyone’s minds are made up about the vaccine. If you’re for or against it, nobody is gonna change their mind at this point in the game.

 

[nonobaddog]

How did fact checkers get to be so political and retarded? Isn't there one group anywhere that cares about the truth?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Isn't there one group anywhere that cares about the truth?

Ingo

 

[Ziggidy]

Where did you get your medical degree? You seem to be giving an awful lot of medical advice, and then telling those that disagree that their opinions aren’t valid because they don’t have a medical degree... kinda retarded isn’t it? (Can I say that if I don’t have a degree in mental health?)

There’s bs being tossed out from all side.


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[ancjr]

INGO is blessed with so many cardiologist.

If you can identify as a fact-checker, Hatin can identify as a cardiologist.

 

[yeahbaby]

Bottom line here is do you what you think is best for your own health. What ever that decision may be. Jeez.