Coronavirus II

[DoggyDaddy]

And, in this context, disaster area is defined how, exactly?

Right now, I'm defining it as my house. My internet and cable are out!

 

[foszoe]

Whatever the GA intended, they have the authority to lift it.


Which leads to the inference...

Indeed, that likely would have been my next question (though I already knew/assumed "epidemic" or some variation was already included).

"Checks and balances" are pretty much only that a declared state of emergency must be renewed every 30 days, and can be overridden by the General Assembly.

There is no way that the GA gave, or intended to give, the Governor the authority to control ingress, egress, and movement within the entire state, by every person in, coming into, or going out of, the state, as a whole. And even if that was the GA's intent, the GA itself doesn't have the authority to do that.

What you are asserting is that a Governor's declaration of emergency is equal to martial (or, as this is INGO, Marshall) law.

This, again, gets at the heart of my concern for everything that is taking place - and widespread willingness to accept it - in terms of the state subverting individual liberty, in response to a virus.

 

[T.Lex]

Indeed, that likely would have been my next question (though I already knew/assumed "epidemic" or some variation was already included).

"Checks and balances" are pretty much only that a declared state of emergency must be renewed every 30 days, and can be overridden by the General Assembly.

There is no way that the GA gave, or intended to give, the Governor the authority to control ingress, egress, and movement within the entire state, by every person in, coming into, or going out of, the state, as a whole. And even if that was the GA's intent, the GA itself doesn't have the authority to do that.

What you are asserting is that a Governor's declaration of emergency is equal to martial (or, as this is INGO, Marshall) law.

This, again, gets at the heart of my concern for everything that is taking place - and widespread willingness to accept it - in terms of the state subverting individual liberty, in response to a virus.

The virus was not the impetus to give the governor this authority.

Well.

Not THIS virus.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I don't have that much gin.

Fortunately, liquor stores are still essential businesses as far as I know.

 

[Route 45]

Indeed, that likely would have been my next question (though I already knew/assumed "epidemic" or some variation was already included).

"Checks and balances" are pretty much only that a declared state of emergency must be renewed every 30 days, and can be overridden by the General Assembly.

There is no way that the GA gave, or intended to give, the Governor the authority to control ingress, egress, and movement within the entire state, by every person in, coming into, or going out of, the state, as a whole. And even if that was the GA's intent, the GA itself doesn't have the authority to do that.

What you are asserting is that a Governor's declaration of emergency is equal to martial (or, as this is INGO, Marshall) law.

This, again, gets at the heart of my concern for everything that is taking place - and widespread willingness to accept it - in terms of the state subverting individual liberty, in response to a virus.

I don't think that the reasonable restrictions currently in place amount to martial law, or even anything close to it. Heck, Indiana State Parks are still open! So many businesses have been deemed essential that it would probably be easier to list the businesses that are NOT essential.

Now...start throwing up roadblocks and checking papers, and I'd be inclined to change my tune. Unless Godzilla comes ashore.


And I don't have any problem with Marshall law.

 

[Cygnus]

I ordered 1 bottle each from Webstaurant.com and divegearexpress.com. I ordered the bottle from Webstaurant a couple of days before the Dive Gear order, but the Dive Gear order got to me first. They really do ship fast, if that makes a difference for you. Says on their website that they ship within 24 hours.

Good to know. I do have a Barmaid on the way. I looked and it's in stock both places. The shipping is $16 from Webresturaunt and $9 from the Dive place. I may get one to have some on hand for family/friends (hell I hope "normal " cleaning products are around by 150 gallons. LOL (?)

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I don't think that the reasonable restrictions currently in place amount to martial law, or even anything close to it. Heck, Indiana State Parks are still open! So many businesses have been deemed essential that it would probably be easier to list the businesses that are NOT essential.

Now...start throwing up roadblocks and checking papers, and I'd be inclined to change my tune. Unless Godzilla comes ashore.


And I don't have any problem with Marshall law.

I prefer Marshall Tucker law.

 

[Dead Duck]

I feel bad for all the blind people out there who rely on touching and feeling their way around the world.
















































Oh..... Sorry.
For our Blind INGO members.



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[Cygnus]

I don't think that the reasonable restrictions currently in place amount to martial law, or even anything close to it. Heck, Indiana State Parks are still open! So many businesses have been deemed essential that it would probably be easier to list the businesses that are NOT essential.

Now...start throwing up roadblocks and checking papers, and I'd be inclined to change my tune. Unless Godzilla comes ashore.


And I don't have any problem with Marshall law.

Is that Akira Takahsi?

 

[Leadeye]

Fortunately, liquor stores are still essential businesses as far as I know.

Best news I've heard all day!

 

[Route 45]

Is that Akira Takahsi?

Akira Takasaki from Loudness.

"Wok an woll cwazy nite! You aw de hewo tonite!"



(Man, I miss the 80's!)

 

[qwerty]

Well snap. Indiana apparently revised some numbers. We were actually at 199 on 4/6 (not 173) and at 203 (allegedly) on 4/7.

Which means...



Ain't hardly right at all.

Like, enough wrong to actually IRL **** me off. But whatevs.

Now, it still reflects a 9-day doubling for Indiana. If that holds (and it probably won't), then that puts us at 1k deaths in about 2 weeks. Let's say it is 5 days. That means 400 by 4/13 and 800 by 4/18. Pretty close to 1k.

I still don't see info on critical cases, but I'm 99% sure they know that number. That's the number they're working from, I'm convinced.

I was going to reply earlier but has been one of those days yet again. I did a little follow-up on this, and the numbers for Indiana are going to be changed working back from today using the new guidelines for reporting a death. Any death of a person COVID positive, will be counted as a COVID death. There was a statement made that was a little alarming, I am waiting to hear back from another Coroner to verify regarding reporting and testing, but looking at the change in past case counts, it might be true.

As far as the stats from Johns Hopkins, I am not sure if they are going to "true-up" the numbers. I have updated the list available here: https://twnwi.com/Historical.php The Johns Hopkins numbers are (JH) and of course the Indiana Numbers are (IN).

 

[Route 45]

40 minutes between posts in this thread. I think that's a record slowdown. Is this an indicator that there is light at the end of the tunnel?

The INGO model.

 

[HoughMade]

Fortunately, liquor stores are still essential businesses as far as I know.

For many people I know, absolutely...as far as the Governor, no.

 

[Trigger Time]

I feel bad for all the blind people out there who rely on touching and feeling their way around the world.
Oh..... Sorry.
For our Blind INGO members.



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LMFAO

 

[DadSmith]

According to New York data around 83% of those who died of Wuhan virus were over 60 years old.

https://covid19tracker.health.ny.go...DOHCOVID-19Tracker-Map?:embed=yes&:toolbar=no

 

[Doug]

According to New York data around 83% of those who died of Wuhan virus were over 60 years old.

In Indiana 88.6% are over 60.

 

[Leadeye]

Listening to the news makes me fell like I've got a target on my back.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

For many people I know, absolutely...as far as the Governor, no.

Really? I didn't actually know. I do know that grocery stores are still selling liquor so at least they haven't fallen under the "You can't sell this non-essential item in your essential business" category.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Listening to the news makes me fell like I've got a target on my back.

I just turned 60 back in December. So I'm perfectly safe until this December... right?