Cap and Ball cylinder conversion

[Iroquois]

I'm looking at a cap and ball conversion for an older Uberti Remington 1858. How much gunsmithing does it require.

 

[Leadeye]

That depends on the kit you get and how far you want to go. Some require you to take the cylinder out to reload, these required no modification to the revolver at all. Gated conversions will allow you to reload with the cylinder in the gun if you grind out a channel in the recoil shield. When you do this your gun is now considered as firearm legally instead of a BP replica.

Kirst has good videos that can explain it in more detail if you are using their conversion.

 

[Dog1]

I have the Howell 45 Colt conversion cylinder for my 1860 Uberti. You have to take it down to load and unload, but it functions fine and is quite accurate.

One thing-if you get one, do not dry fire it. Per the instructions that is no bueno

 

[indiucky]

I have the Howell 45 Colt conversion cylinder for my 1860 Uberti. You have to take it down to load and unload, but it functions fine and is quite accurate.

One thing-if you get one, do not dry fire it. Per the instructions that is no bueno

Also wise to go with a lighter main spring on the 1858 conversions....the factory spring has a little too much "oompf"....

Wolff 32280 mainspring in 1858 Remington clone

After reading about it here I ordered the Wolff spring 32280 intending on using it in the 1977 "1858" Remington I posted about earlier. It already had a Colt style spring in it. When comparing it to the Wolff spring the Wolff spring is longer. Reading post about it here people say they installed...

www.thehighroad.org

 

[Kdf101]

In the movie Pale Rider, I think that is the one, there is a scene where Eastwood rides into town for the showdown. After killing most of the bad guy side kicks, he changes cylinders on his pistol as he is waiting in the street for his opponent.

 

[Leadeye]

In the movie Pale Rider, I think that is the one, there is a scene where Eastwood rides into town for the showdown. After killing most of the bad guy side kicks, he changes cylinders on his pistol as he is waiting in the street for his opponent.

A trick that's a lot easier to do with an 1858 Remington than a Colt 1860 Army.

 

[Max Volume]

A trick that's a lot easier to do with an 1858 Remington than a Colt 1860 Army.

But it takes a little practice and rotating the cylinder to get past the pawl.

 

[Leadeye]

But it takes a little practice and rotating the cylinder to get past the pawl.

There's a funny section on the "how it was made" video about the series Hell on Wheels where Anson Mount talks about trying to learn how to swap cylinders on an 1858 like Clint Eastwood.

 

[Ark]

A trick that's a lot easier to do with an 1858 Remington than a Colt 1860 Army.

And what they don't tell you is that after one cylinder, that pin is so gunked up you have to smack it out of the gun with a tool.

 

[Leadeye]

And what they don't tell you is that after one cylinder, that pin is so gunked up you have to smack it out of the gun with a tool.

That pin gets a healthy smear of SPG lube before I install the cylinder.

 

[Iroquois]

Watched a video about the gunking problem and black powder. Petroleum products and black powder creat hard residue. Use natural lube like lard or vegetable oil shortening.
Back to my question, I have an older Uberti, and the ad says that I might need some modifications to get the cylinder to fit. I'm looking at the Taylor brand with 6 firing pins.

 

[Mongo59]

Ah, I remember cooking with Crisco...

 

[Beowulf]

Watched a video about the gunking problem and black powder. Petroleum products and black powder creat hard residue. Use natural lube like lard or vegetable oil shortening.
Back to my question, I have an older Uberti, and the ad says that I might need some modifications to get the cylinder to fit. I'm looking at the Taylor brand with 6 firing pins.

I can certainly confirm on the natural black powder lubes. I use a 50/50 lard (no salt) bees wax combo on my various military muzzle loaders and it makes it really easy to keep them clean. I can even fire a pretty substantial number of rounds through the rifles (well, substantial by ML standards) with no difficulty from build up.

 

[MrSmitty]

Back in the day...I'm old, we'd shoot one, run spit patch, shoot one, rinse repeat..

 

[indiucky]

This hurt lol.....only $995 plus shipping!!!!!

 

[Leadeye]

This hurt lol.....only $995 plus shipping!!!!!






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It's got that western steampunk look.

 

[Iroquois]

Well, I bought the Remington style replacement cylinder, the type with 6 firing pins. I have learned to roll it in with some dexterity. I hope to get as good as Eastwood some day. I only have one complaint. It smashes my middle finger when it goes off, because of the grip position. I'm trying some lighter loads today, I hope it helps. If not, I will be looking to modify the trigger guard or the grip to reposition my middle finger. My hands are too old to abuse anymore.....

 

[Leadeye]

Here's a Colt Dragoon with one of the Kirst kits and a frame cut out for loading.

 

[Iroquois]

Here's a Colt Dragoon with one of the Kirst kits and a frame cut out for loading.

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I got to shoot the model 62 conversion, .38 Special and the.45 Colt. Very nice with light loads. I also shot the Remington conversion with lighter loads and it didn't hurt nearly as much.

 

[walkercolt]

I bought two .45 Howell conversion cylinders from Midway last spring when they were on sale, one for a Uberti 1858 Remington New Model Army and one for a Ruger Old Army. Both are drop in and function fine, but I always have heard good things about Kirst.