Big Problems if Trump is Indicted

[BugI02]

Ya, you’re right. I must have no basis for morals. How could I? I don’t have 10 commandments ruling me.

“Thou shalt not commit adultery, unless thy skin shimmerest of orange glow, and the delusional worshipeth at thy feet.” I haven’t read the 10 commandments in a while. Pretty sure that one went something like that, eh?

Without morals indeed. 38 years of marriage to my wife and my junk has never touched another woman. I think adultery is immoral.

That's a good start! Now, try to encompass the idea that he isn't going to be your friend. He's not going to marry into your family. Voting for him is not going to soil the hem of your garment

You are hiring him to do a job. What do you care most about a plumber or an electrician who is working on your house? That they are true craftsmen doing excellent work or whether they are faithful to their wives and/or have their house in order (chastised for being 'too binary' in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...)

It is OK to disapprove of such behavior, I do too. I firmly believe in the sanctity of my marriage and the solemn promise I made to and before God. Further, I believe you should 'dance with the one who brung you'. But I also believe you like to harp on **** like that just to rile the Trumpers and you shouldn't get all testy when they rile you back

Notice I never mention a specific member. Everything isn't always about you

 

[jamil]

That's a good start! Now, try to encompass the idea that he isn't going to be your friend. He's not going to marry into your family. Voting for him is not going to soil the hem of your garment

You are hiring him to do a job. What do you care most about a plumber or an electrician who is working on your house? That they are true craftsmen doing excellent work or whether they are faithful to their wives and/or have their house in order (chastised for being 'too binary' in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...)

It is OK to disapprove of such behavior, I do too. I firmly believe in the sanctity of my marriage and the solemn promise I made to and before God. Further, I believe you should 'dance with the one who brung you'. But I also believe you like to harp on **** like that just to rile the Trumpers and you shouldn't get all testy when they rile you back

Notice I never mention a specific member. Everything isn't always about you

You didn't mention a specific member, but c'mon face it, bug. You know you have the hots for me.

Let's play the plumber analogy. If Trump were a plumber and I knew he ****ed a whore while his wife was pregnant with his son, I think that's a pretty ****** thing to do to your family for his 5 minutes of fun. If he were the only plumber, and I couldn't fix it myself, of course I'd have to settle for the whore ****er. But, "plumber" implies he fixes things. I'm not seeing his references pan out well.

In the analogy, Trump is not the only plumber in the phone book. And he's not actually the best plumber. If you're stuck on just one plumber, maybe it's something something like brand loyalty.

I call Trump the porn star ****er, not because it's all about Trumpers--I call him that IRL--because that's a big part of his character that I have no respect for. And I have no delusions about that. But let's stay with the plumber analogy. If you hired a plumber, and after he left, your plumbing started springing more leaks than you had before you called the plumber. Would you be all that eager to hire the same plumber to fix it? Especially since he's a porn star ****er?

If you had a strong sense of brand loyalty I guess you'd keep going back. I mean, that's why people buy Chevy's. I know because I've played that game for decades. Anyway, say he's one of only two plumbers in town, and the competition specializes in plumbing demolition, I guess you have to take your chances and hope this time he can figure out how to make his fixes stick. But if there's other plumbers in the running, perhaps with potentially better references, some of whom may never have ****ed porn stars while their wife was pregnant, game theory would suggest going that route.

 

[Ingomike]

You didn't mention a specific member, but c'mon face it, bug. You know you have the hots for me.

Let's play the plumber analogy. If Trump were a plumber and I knew he ****ed a whore while his wife was pregnant with his son, I think that's a pretty ****** thing to do to your family for his 5 minutes of fun. If he were the only plumber, and I couldn't fix it myself, of course I'd have to settle for the whore ****er. But, "plumber" implies he fixes things. I'm not seeing his references pan out well.

In the analogy, Trump is not the only plumber in the phone book. And he's not actually the best plumber. If you're stuck on just one plumber, maybe it's something something like brand loyalty.

I call Trump the porn star ****er, not because it's all about Trumpers--I call him that IRL--because that's a big part of his character that I have no respect for. And I have no delusions about that. But let's stay with the plumber analogy. If you hired a plumber, and after he left, your plumbing started springing more leaks than you had before you called the plumber. Would you be all that eager to hire the same plumber to fix it? Especially since he's a porn star ****er?

If you had a strong sense of brand loyalty I guess you'd keep going back. I mean, that's why people buy Chevy's. I know because I've played that game for decades. Anyway, say he's one of only two plumbers in town, and the competition specializes in plumbing demolition, I guess you have to take your chances and hope this time he can figure out how to make his fixes stick. But if there's other plumbers in the running, perhaps with potentially better references, some of whom may never have ****ed porn stars while their wife was pregnant, game theory would suggest going that route.

 

[Ingomike]

Why do you keep looking for people to follow the rules when you believe that the same type of people fabricated millions upon millions of votes and stole a Presidential election?

"By any means necessary," and all that...

This is a complete misnomer. Obummer was elected in what was described as a landslide over Romney, yet, as I recall, it was about just 350,000 votes over five states, or an average of 70,000 per state. In closer elections it is even less.

It is not a big deal to turn a billion leftist dollars given to leftist election offices into a 100,000 votes for dems.

 

[jamil]

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Eh. It’s whatever. I think Bug and I agree on 90% of things. Apparently that other 10% is a bitch. He sure don’t like when people don’t respect Trump like he does.

 

[Dr Long Jon]

"Vote better America...."

To quote an unnamed source:
The key here is voting harder. On voting Tuesday, you get up and eat some amino acids and a double-caffeine drink, get a good pump on using dumbells or elastic bands, roll up your shirt sleeves, shave both your forearms and then rub baby oil on them until they’re all shiny. Then, when you get to the polling place, take a moment before you get out of the car and put one palm against the other and repump each arm with the counter pressure of the other arm. Try to hold the pump by flexing when you’re waiting in the actual voting line. And then when you get to the vote table/booth/desk do so with exacting and strenuous determination. If you’re voting hard enough to make the veins stand out in your forearms you’re right on target. If we vote hard enough, and enough of us vote hard enough, everything will be just fine. Then we can hit the golf course or spend the weekend swilling beer in front of the sports! tube without a single care.

 

[Shadow01]

No matter who ends up on the ballot, the GOP better figure out how to be the best at ballot harvesting no matter what definition is used to describe it. This will be their last opportunity to stop the slow walk to communism. 24 may be my last trip to the voting booth.

 

[jamil]

No matter who ends up on the ballot, the GOP better figure out how to be the best at ballot harvesting no matter what definition is used to describe it. This will be their last opportunity to stop the slow walk to communism. 24 may be my last trip to the voting booth.

I don't even think they have to be the best at it. Just good enough to supplement the sane vote.

 

[BugI02]

You didn't mention a specific member, but c'mon face it, bug. You know you have the hots for me.

Let's play the plumber analogy. If Trump were a plumber and I knew he ****ed a whore while his wife was pregnant with his son, I think that's a pretty ****** thing to do to your family for his 5 minutes of fun. If he were the only plumber, and I couldn't fix it myself, of course I'd have to settle for the whore ****er. But, "plumber" implies he fixes things. I'm not seeing his references pan out well.

In the analogy, Trump is not the only plumber in the phone book. And he's not actually the best plumber. If you're stuck on just one plumber, maybe it's something something like brand loyalty.

I call Trump the porn star ****er, not because it's all about Trumpers--I call him that IRL--because that's a big part of his character that I have no respect for. And I have no delusions about that. But let's stay with the plumber analogy. If you hired a plumber, and after he left, your plumbing started springing more leaks than you had before you called the plumber. Would you be all that eager to hire the same plumber to fix it? Especially since he's a porn star ****er?

If you had a strong sense of brand loyalty I guess you'd keep going back. I mean, that's why people buy Chevy's. I know because I've played that game for decades. Anyway, say he's one of only two plumbers in town, and the competition specializes in plumbing demolition, I guess you have to take your chances and hope this time he can figure out how to make his fixes stick. But if there's other plumbers in the running, perhaps with potentially better references, some of whom may never have ****ed porn stars while their wife was pregnant, game theory would suggest going that route.

Well, that may not be the stupidest, most disingenuous thing you've written, but it is probably top ten

The reality is, I don't give a dry **** who my plumber or electrician banged 17 years ago - it just has no bearing on the job I want him to do. The important thing is his reputation for doing quality work and getting things done. I'm hiring him to do a particular job not socializing with him. If you call the police because you suspect an intruder, do you care if the responding officer has ever gotten any strange?

The same considerations hold true for presidential candidates. At this point in America's history I want one who is a proven fighter with the determination to get things done that I want done. Hell, Desantis is already getting hot under the collar about less than friendly questioning and the heat is nowhere near as intense as it will be. It is a big difference to go from a governorship of a state with one party control to a potential presidency of a bitterly divided electorate, if he's coming unglued now he'll fold when the going actually gets tough. The left wants to use him to damage Trump so they can turn on him later. The ABTs love to state that the left meddles in order to get the candidate they most want to run against with Trump in mind, but then completely forget about that theory when the left is pushing DeSantis as the replacement for Trump. If your little theory is correct, why do you think they prefer a DeSantis candidacy? I doubt it is because it is what would be good for America and bad for them

 

[TapRackDingus]

I have not followed the goings on due to a lack of interest. However- I have an opinion of him and the 'situation' people have created that involves him. My opinions may be controversial and disliked strongly, but if you prefer Trump- right on. I think he is a huge mistake. An indictment for whatever he is guilty of would not sit well with a lot of people. I am compared most to the Libertarians.

1) I believe that the 'Jan. 6th' storming of the capitol building was an unruly riot and a spur of the moment thing that was not lawful. What I am getting at is- insurrection it was not. Amusing some of it was. The media ran with it because yellow journalism (even Edgar Allan Poe complained about it!) uses blood, controversy and apparently sex to sell things to you. I canceled cable in 2013/2014 after Sandy Hook after I watched lie after lie after lie being spread that could easily be refuted.

2) Trump is anti-gun, and I warned people that he was when people went to vote for him in 2016. He proved me right in 2018 with the Vegas incident at that concert by 'banning bump stocks'. That's a whole other subject and a whole other can of worms. I voted for him for one reason, and one reason only- not because the alternative of Hillary was worse, but because if he was given the President's seat he had the capability of appointing up to three Supreme Court justices that would impact issues to come for a long, long time- and in favor of gun rights. Time proved my vote correct.

3) I believe Trump has gone too far right with new policies that he wants enacted and I would not support him. Such as stop and frisk and more government. Big no-no.

4) During his inauguration speech, before he took the podium they played the song 'You can't always get what you want'. I fell out of my chair laughing so hard I had tears.

5) The nuclear meltdown on the political landscape of his election in 2016 was gold, choice, and hillarious. I had a field day laughing and eating popcorn (figuratively and literally).

6) A good chunk of his tweets stirring people to apopletic rage was hillarious.

7) For those mad or disgusted, I'd die for you to have that right to that opinion.

 

[Route 45]

Some Trump supporters ambivalent on calls for protests

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Donald Trump’s calls for protests ahead of his anticipated indictment in New York have generated mostly muted reactions from supporters, with even some of his most ardent loyalists dismissing the idea as a waste of time or a law enforcement trap.

apnews.com

 

[Bassat]

he probably SHOULD be indicted. Dude is a scumbag liar - always has been. Funny how the long-time north-east limosuine liberal democrat fooled so many so-called conservatives into worshiping him.

What exactly is your point? Politician==Scumbag Liar. No news there.
I don't think DT deserves the office. I don't like him. But if he is the top of the ticket, I'll hold my nose and vote for him again. The worst DT is way better than the best Democrat.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[jamil]

Interesting take from Dershowitz.

 

[Doug]

As far as protesters...I hope the only "protesters" who show up are the under-cover FBI agents who were in D.C. on Jan.6.
They can be as violent as they want and won't get arrested.




Add purple if you think it's needed.

 

[Route 45]

Trump seeks to stave off another indictment — this time in Georgia

Trump’s attorney urged a state court in Georgia to prohibit an Atlanta-area district attorney there from filing charges related to the former president’s bid to subvert the 2020 election.

www.politico.com

 

[jamil]

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If it’s just for campaign finance I fail to see how they have any jurisdiction. I’ve seen some articles saying that the charge will have to do with how the money paid was accounted for. That it should have been treated as a campaign contribution.

Dershowitz touched on that in the interview I posted. It was money paid to settle a legal matter. Not a campaign contribution. The DA is full of ****.

Now what Obama did was a

 

[jamil]

Trump seeks to stave off another indictment — this time in Georgia

Trump’s attorney urged a state court in Georgia to prohibit an Atlanta-area district attorney there from filing charges related to the former president’s bid to subvert the 2020 election.

www.politico.com

Jeez. I wish I’d have noticed it was politico. Now I feel like my phone is soiled for loading the page.

“Trump’s attorney urged a state court in Georgia to prohibit an Atlanta-area district attorney there from filing charges related to the former president’s bid to subvert the 2020 election.”

Hello? *Alleged* bid to subvert the 2020 election.

 

[jamil]

Well, that may not be the stupidest, most disingenuous thing you've written, but it is probably top ten

Now see? Didn't I say you have a crush on me.

The reality is, I don't give a dry **** who my plumber or electrician banged 17 years ago - it just has no bearing on the job I want him to do. The important thing is his reputation for doing quality work and getting things done. I'm hiring him to do a particular job not socializing with him. If you call the police because you suspect an intruder, do you care if the responding officer has ever gotten any strange?

There are times when you just don't have a choice. You just have to go with what's available. It's what I did the past two general elections. But. When you do have a choice, choose not the porn star ****er.

But I get it. You think Trump is the only guy who can do it. Okay. You got a side. Fine. You got that loyalty thing going so much that the porn star ****er thing doesn't matter. That's between you and your god. But I'm gonna say what I think about Trump or whomever.

The same considerations hold true for presidential candidates. At this point in America's history I want one who is a proven fighter with the determination to get things done that I want done. Hell, Desantis is already getting hot under the collar about less than friendly questioning and the heat is nowhere near as intense as it will be. It is a big difference to go from a governorship of a state with one party control to a potential presidency of a bitterly divided electorate, if he's coming unglued now he'll fold when the going actually gets tough. The left wants to use him to damage Trump so they can turn on him later. The ABTs love to state that the left meddles in order to get the candidate they most want to run against with Trump in mind, but then completely forget about that theory when the left is pushing DeSantis as the replacement for Trump. If your little theory is correct, why do you think they prefer a DeSantis candidacy? I doubt it is because it is what would be good for America and bad for them

Again, I don't care who you want to vote for. You think Trump is the best guy for the job. I think he had his chance. And maybe he's a fighter. His record is 1-1. So I can't say he's a loser, per se. Technically he's batting 500.

And. About the left's strategy. They already told you what it is. I didn't. They hope that Trump and DeSantis slug it out in a bitter fight, that DeSantis wins, and that Trump is so pissed he runs 3rd party to split the vote, and then Democrats win. That would be the strategy in the Primary. In the general election, if Trump wins in the primaries, I think they'll go with the ever successful poison Trump strategy. It worked against pretty much all of Trump's endorsees. So much that Pennsylvania voted for some brain dead guy over Trump's genius pick.

 

[jamil]

So did Alvin and the chipmunks arrest Trump yet?