Biden Administration Urges Supreme Court To Let Cops Enter Homes And Seize Guns Without A Warrant

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  • fullmetaljesus

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    Yep.

    And dissenting opinion's become "hate speech."
    Owning guns or the desire to own guns will be deemed as "anti social behavior"
    Then any one displaying anti social behavior will be deemed unfit for gun ownership. Fire up the red flag law machine.

    Divide the country
    Remove the guns
    Crime is still bad or worse.
    Impose curfew
    Impose travel restrictions
    Maybe only stay home and go to work
    Religion will be next.
    Install more bigger gov.
    Usa becomes socialist
    Install a great fire wall
    Outlaw free expression
    Gut constitution
    Declare need for new constitutional convention
    Re write constitution to remove natural rights

    Rip usa
     

    churchmouse

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    Owning guns or the desire to own guns will be deemed as "anti social behavior"
    Then any one displaying anti social behavior will be deemed unfit for gun ownership. Fire up the red flag law machine.

    Divide the country
    Remove the guns
    Crime is still bad or worse.
    Impose curfew
    Impose travel restrictions
    Maybe only stay home and go to work
    Religion will be next.
    Install more bigger gov.
    Usa becomes socialist
    Install a great fire wall
    Outlaw free expression
    Gut constitution
    Declare need for new constitutional convention
    Re write constitution to remove natural rights

    Rip usa
    Paging Mr Orwell.
     

    Tombs

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    Owning guns or the desire to own guns will be deemed as "anti social behavior"
    Then any one displaying anti social behavior will be deemed unfit for gun ownership. Fire up the red flag law machine.

    Divide the country -Done
    Remove the guns
    Crime is still bad or worse. -Done
    Impose curfew -Done
    Impose travel restrictions -Done
    Maybe only stay home and go to work -Done
    Religion will be next.
    Install more bigger gov. -Done
    Usa becomes socialist -Close to done
    Install a great fire wall
    Outlaw free expression -Close to done
    Gut constitution -Done
    Declare need for new constitutional convention
    Re write constitution to remove natural rights

    Rip usa

    Halfway there already....
     

    OurDee

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    Lots of variables to consider from the enforcement side. I know a few cops that would probably side with the Constitution and a few that would probably do whatever they were ordered to do. Some would have to think of themselves and providing for their families and reluctantly obey to keep their jobs while others are just waiting to stomp some lawbreakers skulls! It’s a very uncertain time. I know they didn’t have any shortage of willing cops at Ruby Ridge, Waco or New Orleans. I just pray it doesn’t come to that.
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    I notice the ones who voted for this BS are too ashamed to discuss this. Then again, when Biden discussed gun control a month ago, I was told “I would happily vote for him again”, so I’m not sure they even care about the 2A at this point.


    We all knew this was coming... just didn’t think it would be this fast. I think they know this one will fail, but they’re hammering on it now hoping if they do so for the full 4 years they’ll get it passed. And with the morons in DC, they probably will :(
     

    Tombs

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    You know who won't be coming for anyone's guns? This guy. I feel sorry for those that are willing to, because it won't be pretty.

    I don't know how to phrase this in any way that won't seem hostile, so please don't take it that way.

    But would you ever participate in a red flag confiscation? Because that's how it's being done now and how it will be done in the future.
     

    IndyDave1776

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    You know who won't be coming for anyone's guns? This guy. I feel sorry for those that are willing to, because it won't be pretty.
    I can only speak for myself but I already realized this is the case. You are a man of good character. After that, everything else is details.
     
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    Frank_N_Stein

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    I don't know how to phrase this in any way that won't seem hostile, so please don't take it that way.

    But would you ever participate in a red flag confiscation? Because that's how it's being done now and how it will be done in the future.
    No matter what I say, someone is going to take issue with it. I believe that there are people that are not stable enough to possess firearms.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    I don't know how to phrase this in any way that won't seem hostile, so please don't take it that way.

    But would you ever participate in a red flag confiscation? Because that's how it's being done now and how it will be done in the future.
    Do you think they're going to issue 100 million "red flag" orders simultaneously if they decide to try confiscation of guns from every legal gun owner in America? I kind of get what you're saying, but if a ban/confiscation order comes down, I don't think that's how it will be done.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    No matter what I say, someone is going to take issue with it. I believe that there are people that are not stable enough to possess firearms.
    And I agree. And that should be the only valid reason for a red flag confiscation. With that said, it should be a temporary order to be adjudicated in court on an individual basis. I think with Biden, we'd be talking mass confiscation.
     

    Tombs

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    Do you think they're going to issue 100 million "red flag" orders simultaneously if they decide to try confiscation of guns from every legal gun owner in America? I kind of get what you're saying, but if a ban/confiscation order comes down, I don't think that's how it will be done.

    No, they'll make examples, and keep doing it until the pressure is too high for the average person to be willing to have the risk of it happening to them. That's why I don't exactly trust police who would ever allow themselves to be a party to it now, because the justifications will keep creeping as they always do when due process is taken out of the equation.

    No one is idiotic enough to try to do it in widespread fashion. It's like herding sheep, do you really think hundreds of sheep couldn't overpower a sheep dog and do what ever they want?

    But yeah, ultimately red flag confiscations are the blueprint for how any of this will work. So if someone is willing to do them now, well I don't know what to say.
     
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    Frank_N_Stein

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    That's why I don't exactly trust police who would ever allow themselves to be a party to it now, because the justifications will keep creeping as they always do when due process is taken out of the equation.
    Trust me or not, I don't care. I know how you feel about the police and you are free to have that opinion. But I know how I do my job, and I know how the officers I work with do their jobs. There is due process involved in the Indiana Jake Laird Law, even if you don't think so.
     

    DadSmith

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    No, they'll make examples, and keep doing it until the pressure is too high for the average person to be willing to have the risk of it happening to them. That's why I don't exactly trust police who would ever allow themselves to be a party to it now, because the justifications will keep creeping as they always do when due process is taken out of the equation.

    No one is idiotic enough to try to do it in widespread fashion. It's like herding sheep, do you really think hundreds of sheep couldn't overpower a sheep dog and do what ever they want?

    But yeah, ultimately red flag confiscations are the blueprint for how any of this will work. So if someone is willing to do them now, well I don't know what to say.
    The big question is has Indiana and its law enforcement abused Jake's law? If not then the checks and balances are working. If Jake's law is being abused then the law needs repelled immediately.
     

    Tombs

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    The big question is has Indiana and its law enforcement abused Jake's law? If not then the checks and balances are working. If Jake's law is being abused then the law needs repelled immediately.

    I read the text of the law, and without being a cop and actually seeing the process take place, I can't say one way or another. It's not very informative about what actually meets various tests.

    I could easily make an argument to apply the law against a lot of people that SEEMS like would meet the tests, but surely that's not the case... I would hope.
     

    d.kaufman

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    I read the text of the law, and without being a cop and actually seeing the process take place, I can't say one way or another. It's not very informative about what actually meets various tests.

    I could easily make an argument to apply the law against a lot of people that SEEMS like would meet the tests, but surely that's not the case... I would hope.
    If I'm not mistaken, there was some added protections for gun owners last year dealing with some concerns of Lairds law. :dunno:
     

    ghitch75

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    Owning guns or the desire to own guns will be deemed as "anti social behavior"
    Then any one displaying anti social behavior will be deemed unfit for gun ownership. Fire up the red flag law machine.

    Divide the country
    Remove the guns
    Crime is still bad or worse.
    Impose curfew
    Impose travel restrictions
    Maybe only stay home and go to work
    Religion will be next.
    Install more bigger gov.
    Usa becomes socialist
    Install a great fire wall
    Outlaw free expression
    Gut constitution
    Declare need for new constitutional convention
    Re write constitution to remove natural rights

    Rip usa
    looks like 1934 Germany to me
     
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