ATF using mentally disabled in sting operations, then arresting them for it.

[ArcadiaGP]

Watchdog Report - ATF uses rogue tactics in storefront stings across nation

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/180645/

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel just : Based on court records, police reports and dozens of interviews, the paper details how the ATF used “rogue” tactics — including providing underage youths with alcohol and allowing them to smoke pot — to run storefront gun and drug stings across the country.

In our estimation the most explosive allegation made in the report is that the agents with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives used mentally disabled people to run their stings.

 

[-Jake-]

They're out of control, and need to be addressed.

My "favorite" part:

A machine gun and other weapons had been stolen from an agent's car, the storefront was burglarized, agents arrested the wrong people and hired the brain-damaged man, who had an IQ of 54, to set up gun and drug deals. The machine gun has not been recovered.

 

[JetGirl]

[video=youtube;0t1oVWOlnk8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t1oVWOlnk8#t=41[/video]

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I am rarely in favor of legislation but anything to prevent the police practice of selling to disadvantaged individuals (financially, mentally challenged, etc.) and then having those individuals give the drugs to other or turn around and buy the very same drugs that the police sold would be a benefit.

 

[wtfd661]

U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives used mentally disabled people to run their stings

Not only run the stings but hell they are running the agency!

 

[Trigger Time]

The incompetency of our government at every level in almost every agency and branch is stunning. This govt will fail, it's just a question of when.

 

[CathyInBlue]

This story either fills me with confidence or dread. With the current regime, the two are so hard to tell apart.

 

[gunworks321]

I agree. I dread the next three years with this regime. But there is hope that the rest of the country is awakening. I pray that they do.

 

[CMB69]

■ Agents damaged buildings they rented for their operations, tearing out walls and rewiring electricity — then stuck landlords with the repair bills. A property owner in Portland said agents removed a parking lot spotlight,damaging her new $30,000 roof and causing leaks, before they shut down the operation and disappeared without a way for her to contact them.

Not the first time I have heard of this. Seems to be SOP.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

I'm laughing at anyone who thinks this will be over in three years. Even if Obama doesn't appoint himself President-for-life, this will still be a lifelong battle to combat this type of 'law enforcement'. We are living in a twilight zone, unrecognizable to the sane, unconscionable to the just, and unreasonable to the rational. Never stop putting the pressure on tyranny. Never.

 

[netsecurity]

In Pensacola, the ATF hired a felon to run its pawnshop. The move widened the pool of potential targets, boosting arrest numbers.Even those trying to sell guns legally could be charged if they knowingly sold to a felon.


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How could they charge someone for selling to a felon, when they are actually selling to the pawn shop? Don't pawn shops have to be a registered firearms seller and use 4473's? Shouldn't the pawn shop be legally responsible for the person they hired? And how would the seller know he was a felon? This is entrapment of the worst sort it sounds like, because it would be impossible to know, even after the "crime" had been committed. Even when a kid is tricked into buying pot off of a homeless person, at least he knows he committed a minor infraction.

 

[other dave]

The incompetency of our government at every level in almost every agency and branch is stunning. This govt will fail, it's just a question of when.

It's not the incompetence that worries me as much as the pure evil of our government at every level and their willingness to further their agenda by ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

 

[Mgderf]

Whatever it takes right?

I mean, it's for the safety of the children for God's sake!

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Using the mentally disabled? Well, that explains some of what I overhear at LGS's....

 

[printcraft]

Is there anything that democrats won't fall for?

 

[JettaKnight]

I'm going to read this (these?) articles later today. This looks like good stuff. (and by good I mean despicable). I expected the usual INGO tinfoil and speculation, but this is for realzies, yo.


I don't get it. Why do so people need to go to these measures? Job security? Desire for evil? Some delusion of integrity? Sheer incompetence?

 

[Birds Away]

I thought it was no longer politically correct to call them mentally handicapped? I'm pretty sure we're supposed to call them agents.

 

[SteveM4A1]

I'm all for law enforcement officers catching criminals, but this is just crazy. These agencies have no morals whatsoever, which makes them at best on par with the very criminals they are arresting! And to those who turn this into a political statement and it is all a socialist state created by Obama, this is nothing new. It is simply another example of how those in power use measures they see fit to stay in power.

 

[clownsaw]

I'm going to read this (these?) articles later today. This looks like good stuff. (and by good I mean despicable). I expected the usual INGO tinfoil and speculation, but this is for realzies, yo.


I don't get it. Why do so people need to go to these measures? Job security? Desire for evil? Some delusion of integrity? Sheer incompetence?

Gotta make the quota, have to justify your budgets. You can deal with bad headlines, so long as you make the busts, I guess. I'd expect they find themselves able to explain away what they are doing by viewing themselves as part of a larger fight against a larger evil, and that their sideline actions are just necessities to keep their budgets green and their manpower stable.

 

[SteveM4A1]

Gotta make the quota, have to justify your budgets. You can deal with bad headlines, so long as you make the busts, I guess. I'd expect they find themselves able to explain away what they are doing by viewing themselves as part of a larger fight against a larger evil, and that their sideline actions are just necessities to keep their budgets green and their manpower stable.

Yup. The end justifies the means.