*10mm* Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0

[DadSmith]

I bought a compact no safety yesterday at ZX. They had a couple others in stock, a compact w/safety and a full size.

I am going to order a red dot for it (already set up for it and has the tall sights), but am sort of mystified by the whole thing as this will be popping my RDS cherry.

Didn't know they made a compact version. What does it hold 10rds, and a 3.5" barrel?

Only ones I've seen are both 15rd 4" and 4.6" barrel models.

 

[Expat]

Didn't know they made a compact version. What does it hold 10rds, and a 3.5" barrel?

Only ones I've seen are both 15rd 4" and 4.6" barrel models.

They call the 4" a compact. It looks like the frames are the same, just slide and barrel length difference.

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

The full size pistol looks exactly what I want for carry in Alaska. Look forward to additional reviews where they use full power Underwood of Buffalo Bore ammo.

 

[jwamplerusa]

They call the 4" a compact. It looks like the frames are the same, just slide and barrel length difference.

@Expat, if you are over 50 I think you will like a red dot. As with all things a red dot is a compromise and for me they are a desirable compromise. I am willing to give up the lowest time to first shot up close for increased accuracy at a little distance. For me a red dot addresses those conditions, as my eyes will no longer support precision at distance with iron sights.

I don't know what the 10MM optic interface is like, but you may want to read through this thread (https://www.indianagunowners.com/posts/8522732) and talk to C&H Precision about a plate.

I have two red dots now, a Holosun 509T and a DetaPoint Micro. I like both, with each fulfilling its purpose well.

Red dots require WORK however; especially from the holster. I have found they will also make you better with irons, as they force you to correct things which were buried by the proximity of irons to the bore and the relative coarseness of the sight picture. Checkout Aaron Cowen's RDS series on YouTube at Sage Dynamics well worth the time to watch.

 

[Bigtanker]

I bought a compact no safety yesterday at ZX. They had a couple others in stock, a compact w/safety and a full size.

I am going to order a red dot for it (already set up for it and has the tall sights), but am sort of mystified by the whole thing as this will be popping my RDS cherry.

I just bought a 4.25 9mm P.C. version. Tall sights just like yours. It will be my first RDS gun too. What optic are you thinking about. I'm leaning towards a green got.

 

[Bigtanker]

While I buying the 9mm, I handled the 10mm. The trigger seemed to have a lot of "plastic scrape" on the sides of the very first part of the movement. Like something wasn't quite fit or aligned correctly.

 

[drillsgt]

While I buying them 9mm, I handled the 10mm. The trigger seemed to have a lot of "plastic scrape" on the sides of the very first part of the movement. Like something wasn't quite fit or aligned correctly.

I bought a new one recently and thought this as well, but if you take the slide off that 'scraping' disappears, as someone said upthread it's the trigger bar hitting the firing pin safety plunger, needs polished out a bit or you can buy one already polished up.

 

[drillsgt]

I bought a compact no safety yesterday at ZX. They had a couple others in stock, a compact w/safety and a full size.

I am going to order a red dot for it (already set up for it and has the tall sights), but am sort of mystified by the whole thing as this will be popping my RDS cherry.

I've been using a lot of the Holosun 407 or 507's, they are always on sale at different places but I would invest in a C&H plate vs. the plastic ones that S&W uses.

 

[Route 45]

The full size pistol looks exactly what I want for carry in Alaska. Look forward to additional reviews where they use full power Underwood of Buffalo Bore ammo.

YouTube has a couple of reviews showing the M&P 10mm choking on heavier/hotter ammo. Just search "M&P 10mm malfunctions." One guy's optic flew off, but that might have been an installation error. Another guy tested the XDm Elite 10mm and it did better than his M&P 10. Only problem with that is, you'd have to own an XD.

Probably not a big deal, the M&P is a solid platform. Might need a little heavier recoil spring if you are going to use Underwood or Buffalo Bore stuff. I read that the factory recoil spring is 17 lbs, seems a little light for stout 10mm. S&W probably tuned it for the majority of factory 10mm ammo out there, which is really just .40 +P.

 

[DadSmith]

They call the 4" a compact. It looks like the frames are the same, just slide and barrel length difference.

I see I was thinking something like the size of a Glock 29. Or the new compact 10mm from springfield armory.

 

[Expat]

I just bought a 4.25 9mm P.C. version. Tall sights just like yours. It will be my first RDS gun too. What optic are you thinking about. I'm leaning towards a green got.

I am not really sure yet. I noticed the youtube reviewers had mostly put those Holosun 507s on them. I am going to read some reviews. I had originally figured on getting something like the Trijicon.

 

[Expat]

@Expat, if you are over 50 I think you will like a red dot. As with all things a red dot is a compromise and for me they are a desirable compromise. I am willing to give up the lowest time to first shot up close for increased accuracy at a little distance. For me a red dot addresses those conditions, as my eyes will no longer support precision at distance with iron sights.

I don't know what the 10MM optic interface is like, but you may want to read through this thread (https://www.indianagunowners.com/posts/8522732) and talk to C&H Precision about a plate.

I have two red dots now, a Holosun 509T and a DetaPoint Micro. I like both, with each fulfilling its purpose well.

Red dots require WORK however; especially from the holster. I have found they will also make you better with irons, as they force you to correct things which were buried by the proximity of irons to the bore and the relative coarseness of the sight picture. Checkout Aaron Cowen's RDS series on YouTube at Sage Dynamics well worth the time to watch.

Thanks, I will look through that stuff and yes, 50 is a distant memory, even 60 is in the rear view.

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

YouTube has a couple of reviews showing the M&P 10mm choking on heavier/hotter ammo. Just search "M&P 10mm malfunctions." One guy's optic flew off, but that might have been an installation error. Another guy tested the XDm Elite 10mm and it did better than his M&P 10. Only problem with that is, you'd have to own an XD.

Probably not a big deal, the M&P is a solid platform. Might need a little heavier recoil spring if you are going to use Underwood or Buffalo Bore stuff. I read that the factory recoil spring is 17 lbs, seems a little light for stout 10mm. S&W probably tuned it for the majority of factory 10mm ammo out there, which is really just .40 +P.

Thanks for the update. I knew the Glock 20 had issues with the heavier hardcast lead ammo. Too bad about the S&W also having issues. Might have to take a hard look at the XD.

Currently have a Mossberg 500 and Rem 870 up in Alaska set up with Breneke slugs. I always though a Yugo M92 with sling and brace would be a real handy backwoods gun. Add a 20 round mag and red dot and it would be ideal. Of course, my friends up in Alaska would think I have gone full brain damage. I still trust a 7.62x39 braced Yugo more than a 10mm pistol.

 

[nucular]

Anyone seen one of these in stock lately?

 

[edporch]

Anyone seen one of these in stock lately?

I gave up looking a few weeks back.
Got tired of the excuses about why they couldn't get me one.
Funny how in reading other forums, I see people saying they bought one.
So they are out there, but for some reason they're "vaporware" around here.

 

[Route 45]

I gave up looking a few weeks back.
Got tired of the excuses about why they couldn't get me one.
Funny how in reading other forums, I see people saying they bought one.
So they are out there, but for some reason they're "vaporware" around here.

They had 3 of them at Shoot Point Blank in Carmel about 3 weeks ago.

 

[Expat]

When I bought mine. I think they had 4 in stock, but they only lasted a few days.

 

[mcapo]

Anyone seen one of these in stock lately?

I actually had asked my LGS about them this morning.

Nope. He is not seeing any after the initial push.

 

[edporch]

I actually had asked my LGS about them this morning.

Nope. He is not seeing any after the initial push.

My concern is with all the new models S&W is coming out with, they made a run of these, and when they're gone it could be many months or more til they make more.

 

[mcapo]

My concern is with all the new models S&W is coming out with, they made a run of these, and when they're gone it could be many months or more til they make more.

Resource allocation - gonna be a lot more buyers for the Shield Plus, 9mm M&Ps, etc. Now they have to make the CSX, shotguns and the like. I think you are probably right.

I’ll buy one if I walk up on one but I’m not opposed to waiting for the “PC” version either.