DeSantis 2024?

[KG1]

This is what I posted in a previous thread.

"I suspect the reason DeSantis chose to run this time was he thought he could take advantage of Trump's legal woes and the fallout from J6. He grossly miscalculated in any event and should've waited until "28. He took a chance, and it didn't pan out."

"I think pretty much all of the candidates entered the race for the same reason. The only problem is that none of them could foresee the future impact his indictments would have that actually helped his campaign in a significant way instead of hindering it."

"I believe DeSantis at one point even talked about the impact it had and said it made it hard to compete with once his support and poll numbers started taking off. Said it just sucked all the oxygen out of the room."

 

[Shadow01]

Correct. One of the greatest assaults on the American people will never see justice handed down.

Then he has an opportunity if he would mend fences with Trump to have the vp bid and make that his mission for the next 4 years. All he has to do is convince Trump that big pharma lied to him and that they need accountability from big pharma for the lies and the deaths. Give T a way to save face, but do the right thing.

 

[Ingomike]

Then he has an opportunity if he would mend fences with Trump to have the vp bid and make that his mission for the next 4 years.

I have posted this several times, never get any response back and people continue to ignore the constitutional implications and improbability of this occurring. Simply put, if Trump chose DeSantis as VP, they would lose all the Florida EC votes since they are from the same state...

 

[Shadow01]

I have posted this several times, never get any response back and people continue to ignore the constitutional implications and improbability of this occurring. Simply put, if Trump chose DeSantis as VP, they would lose all the Florida EC votes since they are from the same state...

Is it constitutionally required to name a running mate before the election? And can the running Mate be changed after the election and before taking the oath of office?

 

[rbhargan]

DeSantis is very popular in conservative circles and he took a shot. His term as governor ends in 2026 and I believe term limits prevent him from running for another term. If he waited until 2028 he probably would have dropped out of the spotlight and missed his window of opportunity.

There is also the possibility of Trump being derailed on the road to the nomination - what if he is convicted and sentenced on one of the trumped up charges? If he is unable to accept the nomination, who is most likely to replace him in a convention floor fight? Not Haley. Not Christie. DeSantis is heir apparent.

If Trump wins, I would not be surprised to see DeSantis assume a Cabinet position. If Trump loses, DeSantis may find himself as one of the leaders of the conservative opposition. Whether that pans out in 2028 is anybody's guess.

We live in interesting times.

 

[Ingomike]

Is it constitutionally required to name a running mate before the election?

No, they do not. The votes for president are separate from VP. Then when states EC voters meet to cast their votes for president they would also need to cast a vote for VP and they would need to write in one if one did not win their state otherwise the senate chooses the VP.

Then since it is unlikely enough of the the states wrote in the same person the lack of VP would be thrown to the Senate.

And can the running Mate be changed after the election and before taking the oath of office?

I do not think so, they would need EC votes or voted in by the senate…

 

[KLB]

No, they do not. The votes for president are separate from VP. Then when states EC voters meet to cast their votes for president they would also need to cast a vote for VP and they would need to write in one if one did not win their state otherwise the senate chooses the VP.

Then since it is unlikely enough of the the states wrote in the same person the lack of VP would be thrown to the Senate.


I do not think so, they would need EC votes or voted in by the senate…

Then I don't think you are quite right. It seems that in this scenario, the electors could vote for Trump, but would be unable to vote for Desantis for VP. If the election was close enough, you could end up with no one winning VP and it going to the Senate.

 

[Ingomike]

Then I don't think you are quite right. It seems that in this scenario, the electors could vote for Trump, but would be unable to vote for Desantis for VP. If the election was close enough, you could end up with no one winning VP and it going to the Senate.

I believe everything in my post was correct as is what is in your post, just more detail.

From Article II:

"The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves."

Twelfth Amendment:

In 1804, the Twelfth Amendment altered the Electoral College process and created a separate ballot for vice president. But the rule of not being able to use both votes on a person from an elector's home state remained in effect.

So in the end Florida can only vote for one candidate from that state.

 

[KLB]

I believe everything in my post was correct as is what is in your post, just more detail.

From Article II:

"The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves."

Twelfth Amendment:

In 1804, the Twelfth Amendment altered the Electoral College process and created a separate ballot for vice president. But the rule of not being able to use both votes on a person from an elector's home state remained in effect.

So in the end Florida can only vote for one candidate from that state.

Right, so Trump could get the votes, but Desantis could not. Would definitely make for an interesting spectacle if Trump won with less than 300 electoral votes.

 

[Ingomike]

Right, so Trump could get the votes, but Desantis could not. Would definitely make for an interesting spectacle if Trump won with less than 300 electoral votes.

It sure would, stuff that makes the mouths of constitutional scholars drool more than the INGO old men lusting over Tulsi.

At the end of they day though, this situation, make modern running mates from the same state impractical.

 

[Ingomike]

 

[jamil]

Also, he'll have to over-cook himself in the tanning booth and get hair plugs to augment his balding hair. Maybe **** a porn star and pay her off. Get caught on a hot mic saying he grabs women by the *****. Get indicted for 90 charges. Maybe grow a personality.

 

[Ingomike]

So @BugI02 was right, DeSantis was a tool of Club for Growth and the RINO’s.

“The RGA gives DeSantis $20 million in 2022 knowing it will be transferred into his presidential campaign super PAC in 2023. A part of that money – $2.75 million – is then sent to the Club for Growth (C4G). The Club for Growth then attacks Donald Trump. In essence, the Republican Governors Association funded the attack against Trump using DeSantis as the broker. Three layers of plausible deniability built in.”

“Now, ask yourself, who exactly does the RGA support? What is the goal and intent of this “approved Republican” political system that operates in the background of our national politics? When you answer those questions, you realize why the RNC has no support from Republican base voters.”

@HKFaninCarmel and @JettaKnight approve of this…

Follow the Bouncing Ball - DeSantis Super PAC Paid Club for Growth Super PAC to Target Donald Trump.... But Wait... - The Last Refuge

This is kind of a funny and very real political story if you follow the mechanics of it. Essentially, it starts out with Politico noting the Ron DeSantis’ Super PAC Never Back Down, paid the Club for Growth Super PAC, Win It Back, $2.75 million dollars to run attack ads against Donald Trump...

theconservativetreehouse.com

 

[foszoe]

How much money does one have to accept before one is a tool of the donor?

I am thinking Trump may be my tool!

 

[DadSmith]

Sunshine stakes: How DeSantis’s biggest gambles have fared - Washington Examiner

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) made several gambles with bold actions in Florida in the lead-up to his ill-fated presidential campaign. While the various actions were part of his executive agenda in Florida, several of them had an eye toward the presidential campaign. DeSantis's 2024 campaign is now...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Most republican governors could do worse than follow Ron’s leadership on these sorts of things.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Most republican governors could do worse than follow Ron’s leadership on these sorts of things.

He didn't just sign an executive order, he got a law passed... then drained the Florida Board of Governors of swamp creatures (they passed the new regs to implement the law 15-2)... and appointed a new university president to implement it... and finally, ending the **** at the university.

And that is how you drain a swamp.

Sunshine stakes: How DeSantis’s biggest gambles have fared - Washington Examiner

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) made several gambles with bold actions in Florida in the lead-up to his ill-fated presidential campaign. While the various actions were part of his executive agenda in Florida, several of them had an eye toward the presidential campaign. DeSantis's 2024 campaign is now...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

But INGO (and Trump) told me that Disney was going to wipe the floor with him...

Hmmm...

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Also, he'll have to over-cook himself in the tanning booth and get hair plugs to augment his balding hair. Maybe **** a porn star and pay her off. Get caught on a hot mic saying he grabs women by the *****. Get indicted for 90 charges. Maybe grow a personality.

Lol! But just to Denny it up, Biden was 78 when he took office... as will Trump if he wins and is sworn in a second time... so 75 would be a spring chicken, lol.

Interesting that the next oldest was Reagan at 69 when sworn in the first time.

 

[HKFaninCarmel]

He didn't just sign an executive order, he got a law passed... then drained the Florida Board of Governors of swamp creatures (they passed the new regs to implement the law 15-2)... and appointed a new university president to implement it... and finally, ending the **** at the university.

And that is how you drain a swamp.


But INGO (and Trump) told me that Disney was going to wipe the floor with him...

Hmmm...

We don't want results around here. We want to be mad.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

This is what I posted in a previous thread.

"I suspect the reason DeSantis chose to run this time was he thought he could take advantage of Trump's legal woes and the fallout from J6. He grossly miscalculated in any event and should've waited until "28. He took a chance, and it didn't pan out."

"I think pretty much all of the candidates entered the race for the same reason. The only problem is that none of them could foresee the future impact his indictments would have that actually helped his campaign in a significant way instead of hindering it."

"I believe DeSantis at one point even talked about the impact it had and said it made it hard to compete with once his support and poll numbers started taking off. Said it just sucked all the oxygen out of the room."

Yes, but there were a number of political commentators that predicted that the panoply of indictments was SPECIFICALLY calculated by Dems to harden support for Trump in the primary, with the goal of multiple indictments prior to the general with Trump losing in a landslide, along with dragging down the House and Senate.

This was more than a year ago and IIRC before DeSantis and many others even entered the primary.

Part One of the supposed Dem strategy has come to pass... but I'm confident that the indictments won't come prior to the election because INGO told me it was not so....