Russia vs. Ukraine Part 2

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    bobzilla

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    I never cease to be amazed at how folks confuse or conflate well warranted disgust for the central government of the united States with disgust for the people of the united States.
    I can never cease to be amazed at how many people want to cut off their nose to spite their face. I get it, this admin is horrific. The uniparty sucks. But do we need to destroy everything in an effort to “show them”? You realize they don’t give a **** about anything but themselves and the power they hold which makes them money. Run the country into the ground … they’ll be fine. They have the wealth to do whatever they want. We don’t.
     

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    I can never cease to be amazed at how many people want to cut off their nose to spite their face. I get it, this admin is horrific. The uniparty sucks. But do we need to destroy everything in an effort to “show them”? You realize they don’t give a **** about anything but themselves and the power they hold which makes them money. Run the country into the ground … they’ll be fine. They have the wealth to do whatever they want. We don’t.
    I sincerely encourage you to look a bit deeper at the lessons folks like Jefferson, Paine, Washington, and others lived and taught.

    Granted, Liberty is very unpopular.
     

    bobzilla

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    I sincerely encourage you to look a bit deeper at the lessons folks like Jefferson, Paine, Washington, and others lived and taught.

    Granted, Liberty is very unpopular.
    And how would they feel about aligning with a foreign power like russia because the current president hurt your feelings?
     

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    And how would they feel about aligning with a foreign power like russia because the current president hurt your feelings?
    Who said anything about aligning with Russia?

    I can tell you what Washington said about alliances.

    I can also tell you what Jefferson said about entangling alliances.

    Jefferson also advocated peaceful trade with all nations. Of course, when some Barbary pirates were less than peaceful towards trade, they were returned the same.
     
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    bobzilla

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    Who said anything about aligning with Russia?

    I can tell you what Washington would said about alliances.

    I can also tell you what Jefferson said about entangling alliances.

    Jefferson also advocated peaceful trade with all nations. Of course, when some Barbary pirates were less than peaceful towards trade, they were returned the same.
    Here:

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Anything to embarrass humiliate discredit overthrow the current illegitimate cabal cartel criminals in control of our country I’m all for.
    SHOOT THE DRONE DOWN!!!
    This is what we are referring to in our comments. Our crypto expert also apparently thinks Russia is his friend.
     

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    The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Anything to embarrass humiliate discredit overthrow the current illegitimate cabal cartel criminals in control of our country I’m all for.
    SHOOT THE DRONE DOWN!!!
    I think I have it figured out. I used to think that politics were on a 2 dimensional continuum, like a number line. 0 is independent; the more left you are, the more liberal, and of course, the more right, the more conservative. Lately, both sides have grown and extended their respective extremes, which pretty much makes communication between them impossible.

    But I've come to learn that I was wrong. It's not a simple number line. It's like a Möbius Strip. It turns out that if one goes far enough to the extremes, be it left or right, they end up meeting the other extreme. You'd need quantum mechanics and multivariate calculus to figure out how that works.

    How do I know this? Because that quote above sounds just like some crazy Jane Fonda ****.

    quod erat demonstrandum
     
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    It’s not like it’s just two sides arguing here. If someone doesn’t believe the US rhetoric that shouldn’t make people assume they’re pro Russian. Maybe some folks should turn the radio dial a bit right and left and get a diverse spectrum of input. The US lies its ass off. Our leaders haven’t earned your instinctive trust. The Russians lies its ass off. They certainly haven’t earned any trust.

    I don’t believe the US side completely. I don’t believe the Russian narrative completely. The only facts I believe at this point is that after the Russian planes intercepted the Drone, the drone crashed into the water. Both sides agree with that much.
     

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    It’s not like it’s just two sides arguing here. If someone doesn’t believe the US rhetoric that shouldn’t make people assume they’re pro Russian. Maybe some folks should turn the radio dial a bit right and left and get a diverse spectrum of input. The US lies its ass off. Our leaders haven’t earned your instinctive trust. The Russians lies its ass off. They certainly haven’t earned any trust.

    I don’t believe the US side completely. I don’t believe the Russian narrative completely. The only facts I believe at this point is that after the Russian planes intercepted the Drone, the drone crashed into the water. Both sides agree with that much.
    Jamil we are talking about. Specific post here referring to Russia being our ally because they make bidiot and knees look bad. Not the normal “meh I don’t really believe that full on propo report” comments
     

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    I think I have it figured out. I used to think that politics were on a 2 dimensional continuum, like a number line. 0 is independent; the more left you are, the more liberal, and of course, the more right, the more conservative. Lately, both sides have grown and extended their respective extremes, which pretty much makes communication between them impossible.

    But I've come to learn that I was wrong. It's not a simple number line. It's like a Möbius Strip. It turns out that if one goes far enough to the extremes, be it left or right, they end up meeting the other extreme. You'd need quantum mechanics and multivariate calculus to figure out hiw that works.

    How do I know this? Because that quote above sounds just like some crazy Jane Fonda ****.

    quod erat demonstrandum
    I want to argue and tell you you’re wrong. But you’re not. You’re still a doodoo head.
     
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    jamil

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    Jamil we are talking about. Specific post here referring to Russia being our ally because they make bidiot and knees look bad. Not the normal “meh I don’t really believe that full on propo report” comments
    What post? Or maybe posts? Got any links where someone said Russia is an ally?
     

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    I want to take this opportinity to note there seem to be many whom seem to be afraid of putin, its followers, its opposition, and such.


    $9B in gold closes the wolf.
     
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