Vaccine coercion/bribery

[wtburnette]

 

[Ark]

When I see a study that says natural immunity confers better immunity than the vaccine, it makes me wonder why no “credit” is given when it comes to vaccine mandates. If I worked at a place that required it, why wouldn’t my past recovery make me exempt? Why is Biden’s mandate not taking it into account? Is it just being mentally lazy by making it strictly binary? There have been enough studies coming to the same conclusion that natural immunity is as good/better but it continues to be ignored.

Same reason mask mandates with no vaccine exception are coming back. They don't want to give ANYONE in the country a legitimate reason to disobey their rules.

 

[wtburnette]

When I see a study that says natural immunity confers better immunity than the vaccine, it makes me wonder why no “credit” is given when it comes to vaccine mandates. If I worked at a place that required it, why wouldn’t my past recovery make me exempt? Why is Biden’s mandate not taking it into account? Is it just being mentally lazy by making it strictly binary? There have been enough studies coming to the same conclusion that natural immunity is as good/better but it continues to be ignored.

Because that doesn't follow along with the narrative. Probably why there haven't been any studies about it conducted in the US.

 

[d.kaufman]

When I see a study that says natural immunity confers better immunity than the vaccine, it makes me wonder why no “credit” is given when it comes to vaccine mandates. If I worked at a place that required it, why wouldn’t my past recovery make me exempt? Why is Biden’s mandate not taking it into account? Is it just being mentally lazy by making it strictly binary? There have been enough studies coming to the same conclusion that natural immunity is as good/better but it continues to be ignored.

It's all about control. Has nothing to do with anything else. Prove me wrong

 

[foszoe]

I think this is vital information for people that have recovered need to make an informed decision on the vax.
I’ve heard this before when I ask/mention it. It’s not information telling people to intentionally get sick. It’s information that those who have been sick shouldnt be pressured to get a vax that has no benefit and all of the negatives.

You may be right, but this study does not support the statement that the vax has no benefit. If you think otherwise, please show me where I am misunderstanding this study?

 

[BigRed]

IU Health Employees Quit Rather Than Take the Shot

STATE WIDE–The decision not to heed the vaccine requirement at IU health has consequences. The organization said Thursday that 125 workers had quit, rather than get the coronavirus vaccine. They had been part of a group of 300 workers who were suspended after they declined to be vaccinated. When...

www.wibc.com

If you ever want to something turn to complete ****, just let .gov stick its nose under the tent.

 

[wtburnette]

You may be right, but this study does not support the statement that the vax has no benefit. If you think otherwise, please show me where I am misunderstanding this study?

What benefit does it denote to those who are young and healthy and/or those who have already had the virus? Those people either wouldn't get the virus again, or would almost invariably not have severe issues even without the vax. So for those individuals, who are in the vast majority who remain unvaccinated, the vax has no, to very little benefit.

 

[Ingomike]

A wise course no matter what the illness.

It is sad that expressing anything other than the narrative from the ministry of truth gets one labeled so many things. I have long avoided those appearing sick, well, like the plague. LOL

I also have protocols established after engagement with those that seem sick and other protocols for just being around an unfamiliar group. Nothing drastic but it seems effective as we seem to be sick way less than our social circle friends.

 

[foszoe]

What benefit does it denote to those who are young and healthy and/or those who have already had the virus? Those people either wouldn't get the virus again, or would almost invariably not have severe issues even without the vax. So for those individuals, who are in the vast majority who remain unvaccinated, the vax has no, to very little benefit.

According to this study, I see 2 conclusions

1. The vaccine provides a level of protection based on the statement that having COVID-19 is 6x more effective than the vaccine alone.

2. Having COVID-19 then getting vaccinated offers a higher level of protection.

So I would say the study means your second group receives a more layered protection while your first group would get some protection.

Again, saying the vaccine offers no protection is not supported by the study we are talking about.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I'll just leave this here... This is what I was saying when the FDA approval first came out. Not advocating for or against, but just putting out the info.

Yes, Comirnaty and the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine are the same

FDA-approved Comirnaty has the same formulation as the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine that was previously authorized for emergency use in the U.S.

www.wthr.com

 

[wtburnette]

According to this study, I see 2 conclusions

1. The vaccine provides a level of protection based on the statement that having COVID-19 is 6x more effective than the vaccine alone.

2. Having COVID-19 then getting vaccinated offers a higher level of protection.

So I would say the study means your second group receives a more layered protection while your first group would get some protection.

Again, saying the vaccine offers no protection is not supported by the study we are talking about.

Meh, I'm not worrying about it. I'm also not going to navel gaze at just the one study, when there are multiples out there. Even with that, at this time it's a bit early to tell much. It'll be interesting to see what data comes to light in the next 6 - 12 months.

 

[Ark]

IU Health Employees Quit Rather Than Take the Shot

STATE WIDE–The decision not to heed the vaccine requirement at IU health has consequences. The organization said Thursday that 125 workers had quit, rather than get the coronavirus vaccine. They had been part of a group of 300 workers who were suspended after they declined to be vaccinated. When...

www.wibc.com

If you ever want to something turn to complete ****, just let .gov stick its nose under the tent.

Suckers should have forced IUH to formally fire them. Then filed suit.

 

[wtburnette]

Suckers should have forced IUH to formally fire them. Then filed suit.

That hasn't worked out for those who have done so, like the Methodist Hospital group in TX.

 

[buckwacker]

Do people not see that the way these crazy leftist nutters talk about the unvaccinated sounds pretty much, just like the Nazis talked about the Jews in 1930s Germany?

 

[wtburnette]

Also, I'm pretty sure the term "quit" is used incorrectly. I'm pretty sure they were fired. Unless it was "take the jab or quit", which amounts to the same thing.

 

[wtburnette]

Do people not see that the way these crazy leftist nutters talk about the unvaccinated sounds pretty much, just like the Nazis talked about the Jews in 1930s Germany?

No, because people are F'n blind, or have drank the

 

[bobzilla]

You may be right, but this study does not support the statement that the vax has no benefit. If you think otherwise, please show me where I am misunderstanding this study?

I just spent 30
Minutes trying to find the 3 different studies that show a diminished immune response from previously infected people with a second shot. No difference in the first shot. Reinfection rates are at 0.7%for PI and around 1.2% for vax’d. Those studies have been buried since I read them in July.

 

[bobzilla]

Here’s what I CAN find…..

https://medicine.missouri.edu/news/study-finds-covid-19-reinfection-rate-less-1-those-severe-illness

https://www.science.org/content/art...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

 

[d.kaufman]

2. Having COVID-19 then getting vaccinated offers a higher level of protection

I have seen 1 study relating to this. However they gave no information as to how much better you're protection was with 1 shot and natural immunity thru prior infection. Same study also showed that natural immunity plus both doses actually decreased protection

 

[actaeon277]

IU Health Employees Quit Rather Than Take the Shot

STATE WIDE–The decision not to heed the vaccine requirement at IU health has consequences. The organization said Thursday that 125 workers had quit, rather than get the coronavirus vaccine. They had been part of a group of 300 workers who were suspended after they declined to be vaccinated. When...

www.wibc.com

If you ever want to something turn to complete ****, just let .gov stick its nose under the tent.

I'm sure they had 125 "extra " employees laying around.
Not like they're gonna have to overwork everyone else