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    BugI02

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    Did you read that on an MSM site or right wing? Maybe you got that piece of information on Facebook, or Twitter, or the Daily Caller (whose FB engagement makes CNN's traffic look like grandma's cat pictures).

    You can watch her say it :rolleyes:
     

    wtburnette

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    They haven't implemented it yet, but they're laying the groundwork. Just because we can see the links to other things now doesn't mean they want it to stay that way. They are actively, publicly saying that the first amendment takes the back seat to "public health" needs, which is complete BS.
     

    rooster

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    Did you read that on an MSM site or right wing? Maybe you got that piece of information on Facebook, or Twitter, or the Daily Caller (whose FB engagement makes CNN's traffic look like grandma's cat pictures).

    Look at all the links, to all the articles here on INGO. Hundreds to thousands expressing a view that we both would agree goes against what the WH wants. Then go to other forums... More links to more articles, more comments...

    But, please continue to tell me how speech is being oppressed.
    When the White House is openly discussing providing “the correct narrative” to social media so they can regulate speech on there platforms......

    that’s speech oppression
    Starts at 9:55, don’t be scared to watch it because it says Fox. They came up first on YouTube. If it bothers you that much I can link a CNN camera version :):

    Can somebody splain this to me? Isn't 60% more than 40% ? :scratch:
    easy pleasy, see the vaccine doesn’t actually prevent the virus, it’s supposed to prevent the disease the virus causes. But it’s starting to appear like the initial efficacy numbers were fudged a little bit....... there were( key word) peer review papers against the method of measuring efficacy they used for these particular vaccines. I’m sure they got disappeared though.
     

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    When the White House is openly discussing providing “the correct narrative” to social media so they can regulate speech on there platforms......

    that’s speech oppression
    Starts at 9:55, don’t be scared to watch it because it says Fox. They came up first on YouTube. If it bothers you that much I can link a CNN camera version :):


    easy pleasy, see the vaccine doesn’t actually prevent the virus, it’s supposed to prevent the disease the virus causes. But it’s starting to appear like the initial efficacy numbers were fudged a little bit....... there were( key word) peer review papers against the method of measuring efficacy they used for these particular vaccines. I’m sure they got disappeared though.

    **** that ***** and the horse that rode her in.

    *Trying to be more like Big Red* ;)
     

    rooster

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    Speaking of being less than truthful. AP reporting some vandalism at vaccine centers in France.

    French language sources reporting huge protest and large amounts of vaccine being seized and destroyed.

     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Speaking of being less than truthful. AP reporting some vandalism at vaccine centers in France.

    French language sources reporting huge protest and large amounts of vaccine being seized and destroyed.

    It would be interesting for Sylvain to chime in on this.
     

    rooster

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    Talk about coercion, if I’m reading this right idk how the headlines reach the conclusion that this is safe for pregnant women. Out of 3958 only 827 had a “completed pregnancy”. That means the miscarriage rate is sky high


    Conclusions

    Preliminary findings did not show obvious safety signals among pregnant persons who received mRNA Covid-19 vaccines.


    As of March 30, 2021, the v-safe pregnancy registry call center attempted to contact 5230 persons who were vaccinated through February 28, 2021, and who identified during a v-safe survey as pregnant at or shortly after Covid-19 vaccination. Of these, 912 were unreachable, 86 declined to participate, and 274 did not meet inclusion criteria (e.g., were never pregnant, were pregnant but received vaccination more than 30 days before the last menstrual period, or did not provide enough information to determine eligibility). The registry enrolled 3958 participants

    Among 827 participants who had a completed pregnancy, the pregnancy resulted in a live birth in 712 (86.1%), in a spontaneous abortion in 104 (12.6%), in stillbirth in 1 (0.1%), and in other outcomes (induced abortion and ectopic pregnancy) in 10 (1.2%).

     

    jsharmon7

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    Here’s what I don’t understand. If the vaccine protects a person, why do they care whether someone else chooses not to get it? You made your choice, and they made their choice. If that person catches the virus and becomes deathly ill, that’s on them. If someone is vaccinated, they don’t need to worry about anyone else.
     

    phylodog

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    Here’s what I don’t understand. If the vaccine protects a person, why do they care whether someone else chooses not to get it? You made your choice, and they made their choice. If that person catches the virus and becomes deathly ill, that’s on them. If someone is vaccinated, they don’t need to worry about anyone else.
    You can't consider this without firing up your emotional side, maybe crying a little bit. Trying to use logic won't get you where they want you.
     

    Ingomike

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    Here’s what I don’t understand. If the vaccine protects a person, why do they care whether someone else chooses not to get it? You made your choice, and they made their choice. If that person catches the virus and becomes deathly ill, that’s on them. If someone is vaccinated, they don’t need to worry about anyone else.

    This is not about a vaccine...
     

    JettaKnight

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    Here’s what I don’t understand. If the vaccine protects a person, why do they care whether someone else chooses not to get it? You made your choice, and they made their choice. If that person catches the virus and becomes deathly ill, that’s on them. If someone is vaccinated, they don’t need to worry about anyone else.
    I believe the answer is mutations. With an unvaccinated person, the virus can thrive and mutate into stronger, more deadly forms. And some people can't get vaccinated, and I'm sure they prefer to not have to worry about it anymore.

    Plus, the cost of dealing with COVID-19 affects everyone - healthcare, continuance of cleaning everything, lost labor, travel restrictions, freakin' govt handouts, etc.


    (Just trying to inject some logic.)
     

    JettaKnight

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    The social media narrative is slowly moving to mocking anyone who doesn’t want it as “scared”.

    “Real men do (insert xyz)”. It’s an oldie but a goodie

    I clicked on that, and immediately regretted it.

    Is that what TikTok is? (Yes, I've never seen/experienced it) That's like one step from the show "Ow, My Balls" in Idiocracy.
     

    JCSR

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    With an unvaccinated person, the virus can thrive and mutate into stronger, more deadly forms. And some people can't get vaccinated, and I'm sure they prefer to not have to worry about it anymore.




    (Just trying to inject some logic.)
    Dr. Jetta, please link us to your test data on this fascinating subject. Or are you making it up as you go?
     
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