Remember, the Second Amendment was undermined by the Trump administration at Trump's direction.
There wasn't a pro-2A option in November, and that was just as much the fault of Republicans nominating Trump as it was the Democrats nominating Biden. Both options should have been considered offensive, but for some reason I still don't see many Republicans admitting that.
Trumpers aren't Trumpers because of 2A. They perhaps hoped it might be a side benefit, but they chose to stick with him even when he showed that he was willing to ignore the Constitutional process and unilaterally change the law in order to infringe on our rights--and to set the precedent that a president can do such a thing.
First, there's a "bookmark" option on posts in the new software. It's pretty handy for things like this.Placeholder post, made so I can find this again 100 days from 20 Jan 21 and see if 2A bona fides are indistinguishable between Biden and Trump. I have a feeling your post won't age well
Biden wasn't my choice. The most ringing endorsement I ever gave Biden was that if he was elected, then at least pro-gun members of Congress might fight against his agenda (which they didn't do against Trump's anti-gun agenda).It's difficult to take at all seriously someone who attempts such specious equivalence arguments as you've made here. I have no doubts you know there is a world of real estate between the two on this issue, but feel the need to take some heat off on a gun forum for your choice of candidates in an election. It isn't going to work.
How is Trump a dead end for the party when he achieved almost 6 million more votes than Obama?It's just my hope that some of you all will see that Trump is both a dead-end politically and not even a 2A supporter.
Please explain how Trump was anti2A. The only conceivable thing I can think of was the bumpstock ban. While I wasn't happy that he went there, the pragmatic view is that his move might have staved off more onerous gun regulation. It seemed more a calculated attempt at ending the gun regulation push, than an ideological opposition to gun rights.Biden wasn't my choice. The most ringing endorsement I ever gave Biden was that if he was elected, then at least pro-gun members of Congress might fight against his agenda (which they didn't do against Trump's anti-gun agenda).
It's just my hope that some of you all will see that Trump is both a dead-end politically and not even a 2A supporter.
The bumpstock ban is enough. It’s a violation. If you’re going to call it ok, because it’s “pragmatic,” then you’ve given the Democrats room to work. The president made his move on that item unilaterally, and quickly, without even consulting congress.Please explain how Trump was anti2A. The only conceivable thing I can think of was the bumpstock ban. While I wasn't happy that he went there, the pragmatic view is that his move might have staved off more onerous gun regulation. It seemed more a calculated attempt at ending the gun regulation push, than an ideological opposition to gun rights.
I thought I was clear I didn't like it, but to say he's not much different from Biden because of it is just stupid. Come on guys. That being said I didn't trust him implicily, as I could envision him giving more ground if the political pressure got really cranked up by something like another Sandy Hook. But he's not campaigning on it, and evidence shows he resisted calls for more onerous gun restrictions after the Vegas shooting.The bumpstock ban is enough. It’s a violation. If you’re going to call it ok, because it’s “pragmatic,” then you’ve given the Democrats room to work. The president made his move on that item unilaterally, and quickly, without even consulting congress.
The bumpstock ban is enough. It’s a violation. If you’re going to call it ok, because it’s “pragmatic,” then you’ve given the Democrats room to work. The president made his move on that item unilaterally, and quickly, without even consulting congress.
Could they be here and we not even know it?When are they gonna bring in the UN blue helmutts?
That crossed my mind recently.When are they gonna bring in the UN blue helmutts?
I think people see your name and automatically read and engage defensively, picking out the worst of your post and reading it in an almost predetermined way.Remember, the Second Amendment was undermined by the Trump administration at Trump's direction.
There wasn't a pro-2A option in November, and that was just as much the fault of Republicans nominating Trump as it was the Democrats nominating Biden. Both options should have been considered offensive, but for some reason I still don't see many Republicans admitting that.
Trumpers aren't Trumpers because of 2A. They perhaps hoped it might be a side benefit, but they chose to stick with him even when he showed that he was willing to ignore the Constitutional process and unilaterally change the law in order to infringe on our rights--and to set the precedent that a president can do such a thing.
Or shooting a couple of sub stations to plunge us into darkness? Cut a couple gas pipes to make sure we freeze and whole house gas generators don’t run?Maybe an RV blowing up in downtown Nashville?
We were faced again with a “least evils” choice. Neither were ideal, but one was clearly much worse than the other. We were in no danger of an AWB under Trump. We’re in grave danger of it now. Those are as good as facts.Remember, the Second Amendment was undermined by the Trump administration at Trump's direction.
There wasn't a pro-2A option in November, and that was just as much the fault of Republicans nominating Trump as it was the Democrats nominating Biden. Both options should have been considered offensive, but for some reason I still don't see many Republicans admitting that.
Trumpers aren't Trumpers because of 2A. They perhaps hoped it might be a side benefit, but they chose to stick with him even when he showed that he was willing to ignore the Constitutional process and unilaterally change the law in order to infringe on our rights--and to set the precedent that a president can do such a thing.
Though I generally agree with the sentiment, you’re taking undo liberties calling it an agenda. Trump didn’t have an anti-gun agenda, but his actions against bump stocks made it clear that he’s willing to use anti-gun actions when he thinks it suits him, and use unconstitutional authority to do it, and demonstrate that he’ll be unchallenged by both Republicans and Democrats when he uses unconstitutional actions to do things they approve of.Biden wasn't my choice. The most ringing endorsement I ever gave Biden was that if he was elected, then at least pro-gun members of Congress might fight against his agenda (which they didn't do against Trump's anti-gun agenda).
It's just my hope that some of you all will see that Trump is both a dead-end politically and not even a 2A supporter.
Because he received about 3 million less than Biden.How is Trump a dead end for the party when he achieved almost 6 million more votes than Obama?
Trump officially became a dead end on January 6, 2021.How is Trump a dead end for the party when he achieved almost 6 million more votes than Obama?