To Mask or Not to Mask?

[actaeon277]

Wear a mask.....

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1345480326282416129/pu/vid/464x848/xl2aMKT2QxpNT8tj.mp4

When I acted like that as a kid, I got the belt.
But now you're not supposed to do that.
Seems now we have kids not growing up.

 

[BigRed]

Wear a mask.....

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1345480326282416129/pu/vid/464x848/xl2aMKT2QxpNT8tj.mp4

Suck it up, Buttercup....You've got a mask on.

Friggin control freaks.

 

[Flingarrows]

I wear a mask if I am expect to be within six feet of people I do not know. Wearing a mask does not limit my ability to shop, travel or visit with people. I don't agree that wearing a mask infringes on my freedom. Wearing a mask increases my freedom of movement.

Good for you, enjoy!

Just dont push your euphoria on everybody


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[nonobaddog]

I wear a mask if I am expect to be within six feet of people I do not know. Wearing a mask does not limit my ability to shop, travel or visit with people. I don't agree that wearing a mask infringes on my freedom. Wearing a mask increases my freedom of movement.

The illusion of safety is a comforting thing, good on ya'.

 

[churchmouse]

So to sum this up...

In some unknown county on an unknown date but two or more months ago; which would put it around here on the steepest rise of cases:
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A person who is all horny about mask-wearing attended a reception with 90-100 people where there was drinking and dancing along with a DJ, so obviously people would be fiddling and removing masks all evening as they were drinking and sucking face but super-cautious mask man chose to attend despite the dramatic rise in state-wide cases.

Miraculously, the DJ was pre-symptomatic and infected 6 people who "lost" their masks and briefly interacted with the DJ when requesting their favorite hits as they boogied on the dance floor but those were the only ones to get Covid because obviously DJ's are super-spreaders and there is no other logical reason. No other details will be provided out of fear of "doxing" but it seems like......

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As far as seatbelts and airbags, I don't recall mentioning or debating them, but lets go...

Seatbelts were not required in automobiles until 1968, 60 years after the Model T was made available. There was plenty of data available to justify the decision to include them. Seatbelts were not required to be worn in Indiana until 1987. With the additional 19 years of traffic fatality and injury data now totaling 79 years, it was a decision made supported by facts and calculatable, measurable data.

Mask data regarding Covid is like nailing Jello to the wall. There is no area where it seems to be successful, nor was it even supported by scientists, including your fuhrer, Dr. Fauci, and CDC who said you do not need to wear a mask, then said you do because you are killing everyone else when you don't.....Fauci must hate these folks:
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Folks that are diligently submitting and wearing their mask (even when alone in the car) still seem to get it. Spouses that sleep in the same bed as someone that is positive seem to not get it. People requesting a song seem to get it, but spending hours together in a vehicle don't...... Maybe we should all be wearing seatbelts and carrying airbags when in public rather than masks.....

So much truth here.

 

[CampingJosh]

The anti-authoritarian bent. You don't see that as an issue of distrust? Of course they reject evidence that goes against preconceptions. That's natural. That's the default human behavior. You have to ovveride that NOT to. And there's plenty of literature that says trust is the key to getting someone to change their minds about something, NOT belittling them or trying to shame them.

And then you try to simplify it into terms you can use to justify it. I agree that freedom comes with responsibility. And I'd bet you Bug's paycheck that if people believed that masks were useful, and yes, also believed that they're not a big government control mechanism, they'd wear them voluntarily. I suspect you're a bit stuck in your own world. You're frustrated because you can't convince people of the truth you think you know, and then throw your hands up and decide it must be because they're all immoral. You don't have to think badly of the people you disagree with. But you still choose to.

I've long given up on trying to convince people to trust sources other than what they want to believe, even on things that they could verify for themselves. We have people here who claim that masks do nothing. I'm guessing they think it's magic that a mask is damp after being worn, because it certainly couldn't have caught anything that was exhaled. I'm not going down that road, even if it's the option most likely to sway more people. INGO posting can't my full-time job.

I don't think badly of people because of their disagreement. I think they have a deficiency based on the mismatch between their professed beliefs/principles and their actions. And I have tried a variety of methods to convince people to do what I think is the logical and moral thing.

I think people should choose to wear masks when they are in close proximity to others. Their reasons can be moral, evidence-based, or philosophical. I really don't care the reason behind anyone's choice.

I had a plumber do some work for me awhile back. He 100% believes that the earth is flat. He also used GPS to get to the job site. I see similar cognitive dissonance going on in this thread, and I've tried to call it out.

There are several reasons to wear a mask during a respiratory-based pandemic. This is just the list off the top of my head.

• Evidence has shown that masks reduce the likelihood (but don't eliminate the possibility) of transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the associated disease.
• Several countries that have had an extremely high degree of masking as one part of their mitigations have suffered significantly less disruption to their society, and it's OK to emulate those whose success you wish to achieve.
• In situations where evidence of the effectiveness of various mitigations is still unclear, the prudent action is to assume the best for low-cost, low-risk mitigations. Anti-Trumpers responded poorly to this with hydroxychloroquine, and pro-Trumpers have responded poorly to this on masks.
• Masks are, in a sense, one particular finger from each hand pointed at Big Brother, Walmart, etc. and their cameras and facial recognition software that tries to track our whole lives.
• The continued spread of the disease is harmful to our friends and neighbors whose businesses are failing and whose livelihoods are being destroyed the longer this drags on. Even if we want to reject authoritarians (and I am on board with that), we should be doing so in a way where the harm we inflict is primarily to the authoritarians and not to our fellow citizens.

 

[NKBJ]

We should be examining the thoughts of the beings who fostered the plandemic.

 

[printcraft]

The WHO weighs in... how does the "all things for the mask" crowd feel about this one?

 

[foszoe]

The WHO weighs in... how does the "all things for the mask" crowd feel about this one?

Weighs? If present tense is used shouldn't the date be sometime this year?

 

[printcraft]

Weighs? If present tense is used shouldn't the date be sometime this year?

Don't you trust them?
Come, join us.

 

[JettaKnight]

Don't you trust them?
Come, join us.

I think he meant, "That post is about ten months old. You should have wrote 'the WHO weighed in'."

 

[printcraft]

I think he meant, "That post is about ten months old. You should have wrote 'the WHO weighed in'."

 

[foszoe]

Only for flat earthers

 

[bwframe]

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[nonobaddog]

I saw a news blurb that said pelosi already won another term as speaker.

 

[JettaKnight]

I saw a news blurb that said pelosi already won another term as speaker.

There's nothing more progressive than reinstating a 294 year old woman to keep doing the same thing.

 

[KMaC]

There's nothing more progressive than reinstating a 294 year old woman to keep doing the same thing.

You may have gotten elected to Congress by raging against the machine but once you are there you don't really want change that may reduce your earning potential. AOC voted for Pelosi to be Speaker.

 

[bwframe]

I saw a news blurb that said pelosi already won another term as speaker.

She did, after making provisions for covid infected members to come in and vote.

Rulez are for thee, but not for me...

 

[jaymark6655]

I wear a mask if I am expect to be within six feet of people I do not know. Wearing a mask does not limit my ability to shop, travel or visit with people. I don't agree that wearing a mask infringes on my freedom. Wearing a mask increases my freedom of movement.

If wearing a mask increases freedom of movement, then freedom has been infringed.

 

[nonobaddog]

Wearing ineffective masks is great - it gives the wearer enough false security to go out and spread the virus while thinking they are some sort of moral critter. Ineffective masks could be responsible for much of the spread in this country. Does any other country have so many people running around with pieces of cloth over their faces and calling them masks?