The 2020 General Election Thread

[jamil]

I believe you.

Here's the problem, though: people that do that (on either side of the aisle) are already in the "decided" camp to the left or to the right. You're either going to the polls or you're not. Once there, the candidate for whom you vote is not in question. (I say "you", though, it largely applies to me*, too - so I could say "we".) The people in the middle - the "undecideds", the "moderates", the ones who change their vote from election to election - they simply don't vote against candidates. They only vote for candidates. Their positive votes have to be earned, or they just stay home.

Biden is not doing anything to earn any of those votes.





* (Holcomb R-vote excepted in 2020; Rainwater for Governor)

There's a flip side to that as well. Trump isn't either.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Just like some other citizen can't wrap their heads around other Freedom Loving Americans voting for Trump/Pence. IMHO opinion, Trump is more apt to become a tyrant than Biden.

I'm not worried about either becoming tyrants. I like Trump because he can likely thwart (for now) the efforts of the real tyrants - the bat-**** crazies in congress on the left. Biden on the other hand would embolden them and enable them every chance he would get.

 

[PistolBob]

Just like some other citizen can't wrap their heads around other Freedom Loving Americans voting for Trump/Pence. IMHO opinion, Trump is more apt to become a tyrant than Biden.

I don' t think Biden has the braincells left to hurt us...it's the democrat party as a whole that I would be concerned with. Soon Nancy and Schumer and crew will age off the planet though...but the young guns coming up behind them...those are some crazy people. No thanks.

 

[chipbennett]

Just like some other citizen can't wrap their heads around other Freedom Loving Americans voting for Trump/Pence. IMHO opinion, Trump is more apt to become a tyrant than Biden.

There is some serious cognitive dissonance from the side that holds both of the following to be true:

A. Trump is apt to be/is a wannabe tyrant
B. Trump didn't exert enough executive authority to inhibit individual liberties in response to a pandemic

Seriously. Does the left have to mainline acetaminophen for the continuous headache that must induce?

 

[chipbennett]

There's a flip side to that as well. Trump isn't either.

There's a flip-side assertion, yes. But the flip-side assertion is demonstrably, empirically untrue.

 

[OakRiver]

If an election like this one can't produce a viable 3rd party candidate, I fear we are doomed to our two party system FOREVER.

"But this election is too important for our country and our way of life to vote 3rd party" - said every single election

 

[jamil]

Just like some other citizen can't wrap their heads around other Freedom Loving Americans voting for Trump/Pence. IMHO opinion, Trump is more apt to become a tyrant than Biden.

I don't see any evidence that Trump would ever become a tyrant. He's done some things that I think are authoritarian, and unconstitutional. The checks and balances are broke though. The side that's supposed to have been the "check" against his use of power isn't really challenging it much, because they either agree with what he did or they want that power for themselves.

I kinda think Biden isn't apt to become a tyrant, per se. Or, I dunno, maybe not a tyrant to you. As a former police officer you'll probably get to keep your guns. But I'm not certain that he'd be successful, depending on what happens to the Senate. The most likely thing for Biden is that he'll die from old age before he finishes his term. And then the real tyrant gets to run the show. You vote for Biden, you're getting Kamala too.

 

[jamil]

There's a flip-side assertion, yes. But the flip-side assertion is demonstrably, empirically untrue.

Sure. Trump is trying to reach people who don't traditionally vote Republican. But his behavior kinda cancels that out. And I'm not even saying that is all his fault. One of the biggest turn-offs from people I've talked to has been the way he handles the "white nationalist" question. And I get that it's become a favorite gotcha question that the press likes to ask. But he has to know by now that they'll ask it, and he needs to be prepared to answer it in a way that makes them work hard to make him sound reluctant to disavow. It's crazy that we're at that point, but it's the reality.

 

[drillsgt]

TBH, Trump hasn't done anything to "win" my vote.


Actually I take that back, he's done good things, but IMHO, the bad things outweigh those... but there's no alternative.

What were the 'bad things' he's done as President?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

What were the 'bad things' he's done as President?

He says mean things.

 

[printcraft]

You never know, someone might think I'm voting for Biden because I like him. I'd vote for a soft boiled egg over Trump.

biden or soft boiled egg... I mean, it's kind of an either or situation there.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

biden or soft boiled egg... I mean, it's kind of an either or situation there.

Lol, at least the soft boiled egg has something inside worth having a shell to protect

 

[KLB]

Just like some other citizen can't wrap their heads around other Freedom Loving Americans voting for Trump/Pence. IMHO opinion, Trump is more apt to become a tyrant than Biden.

That's a silly comment. Neither of them will become a tyrant.

The problem is from the direction their respective parties are going. The Rs like themselves some big brother monitoring, but the Ds are going full speed ahead after the 1st and 2nd Amendments. Biden is a party man, and he does not have the strength of character to stop them from doing great harm.

 

[chipbennett]

Sure. Trump is trying to reach people who don't traditionally vote Republican. But his behavior kinda cancels that out. And I'm not even saying that is all his fault. One of the biggest turn-offs from people I've talked to has been the way he handles the "white nationalist" question. And I get that it's become a favorite gotcha question that the press likes to ask. But he has to know by now that they'll ask it, and he needs to be prepared to answer it in a way that makes them work hard to make him sound reluctant to disavow. It's crazy that we're at that point, but it's the reality.

He's never been reluctant to answer that question definitively, there is no way he will ever cause "journalists" to report accurately on the matter, and anyone who doesn't know, or is unwilling to accept, the truth of Trump's position and statements is either too biased or else too stupid for me to concern myself with.

I'm done with the White Nationalist bull****.

 

[Alpo]

That's a silly comment. Neither of them will become a tyrant.

The problem is from the direction their respective parties are going. The Rs like themselves some big brother monitoring, but the Ds are going full speed ahead after the 1st and 2nd Amendments. Biden is a party man, and he does not have the strength of character to stop them from doing great harm.

I doubt we'll see Roe v. overturned in SCOTUS. At least that's the way I read ACB comments. BUT, we could see Obamacare go away. That would take up all 4 years of a Biden term with little else getting done, methinks. And, if history has shown us anything, we really aren't aware of what the crisis is likely to be in 2021 - 2024. Something else will arise that will require attention.

I don't think much of the SJW agenda...but I also don't think they'll get anywhere over the next 4 years under either potential president.

 

[OakRiver]

Seems that Biden's campaign is determined to keep their candidate out of the public eye. First were all the lids, now this: https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1313253886619246593

"From the very beginning of this campaign, my goal has been to have an honest, open conversation with you.

But this isn’t how I envisioned the final 29 days of this campaign. I hoped to visit your communities and have that exchange of ideas in person. I’ve even been known to go out and knock some doors. And while I’m still getting out there — in a socially distant way — I know I won’t be able to reach everyone.


That’s why, starting today, I’m going to be writing directly to you about the stakes of this election, about the future we can build –– together. I’ll be sharing personal stories and behind-the-scenes moments from the campaign, too."

No longer content with hiding their candidate in the basement, having his interviews scripted, and refusing to answer questions, the Biden campaign is now trying to hide their candidate behind a written notes. If this was Trump the media would be demanding proof of life, and that Trump wrote every single word.

 

[chipbennett]

That's a silly comment. Neither of them will become a tyrant.

The problem is from the direction their respective parties are going. The Rs like themselves some big brother monitoring, but the Ds are going full speed ahead after the 1st and 2nd Amendments. Biden is a party man, and he does not have the strength of character to stop them from doing great harm.

Biden is merely a Kamala Harris Trojan Horse. If he were to be elected (and thankfully, he won't be), there is 100% chance we would see the first invocation of Section 1 of the 25th amendment for removal of a sitting president - likely within weeks of his inauguration.

 

[KLB]

I doubt we'll see Roe v. overturned in SCOTUS. At least that's the way I read ACB comments. BUT, we could see Obamacare go away. That would take up all 4 years of a Biden term with little else getting done, methinks. And, if history has shown us anything, we really aren't aware of what the crisis is likely to be in 2021 - 2024. Something else will arise that will require attention.

I don't think much of the SJW agenda...but I also don't think they'll get anywhere over the next 4 years under either potential president.

I wish I shared your optimism. I can see the Ds pushing more protected classes and more "hate" speech. Look to CA to see where they could be headed.

 

[chipbennett]

Seems that Biden's campaign is determined to keep their candidate out of the public eye. First were all the lids, now this: https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1313253886619246593



"From the very beginning of this campaign, my goal has been to have an honest, open conversation with you.

But this isn’t how I envisioned the final 29 days of this campaign. I hoped to visit your communities and have that exchange of ideas in person. I’ve even been known to go out and knock some doors. And while I’m still getting out there — in a socially distant way — I know I won’t be able to reach everyone.


That’s why, starting today, I’m going to be writing directly to you about the stakes of this election, about the future we can build –– together. I’ll be sharing personal stories and behind-the-scenes moments from the campaign, too."

No longer content with hiding their candidate in the basement, having his interviews scripted, and refusing to answer questions, the Biden campaign is now trying to hide their candidate behind a written notes. If this was Trump the media would be demanding proof of life, and that Trump wrote every single word.

Don't you need actual scenes in order to have behind-the-scenes moments?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

So Biden is going to start using Twitter. That's brilliant! Why didn't Trump think of that?