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    Meh, raised both of my sons to be productive well adjusted members of society, I took care of my own.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    I like how people are awarding him "Father of the Century" based on nothing more than this. Seems reasonable.

    if only I had known that the adulation of the masses was bought so cheaply, it'd be dresses for all and you're on your own for everything else!

    If I was that kids father, I'd buy the costume, and then burn it in front of him in the backyard.
    But seriously, I'd worry if that was my kid. At that age, anything girl related was "yucky" and "gross."

    Kut (hopes his boy gets his fair share of cuts, bruises, dirty faces, worms in a jar, mad mommy moments by age 7)
     

    steveh_131

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    But seriously, I'd worry if that was my kid. At that age, anything girl related was "yucky" and "gross."

    Oh, I don't know. Kid looks about 4? It's not really abnormal for them to have interests in a wide variety of things - including maybe a disney princess here and there.

    A dad with an actual pair of balls will usually guide the kid's interests in an appropriate direction before it gets to this point.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Oh, I don't know. Kid looks about 4? It's not really abnormal for them to have interests in a wide variety of things - including maybe a disney princess here and there.

    A dad with an actual pair of balls will usually guide the kid's interests in an appropriate direction before it gets to this point.

    I had zero interest in princesses as a kid, unless there was some knight saving her. As a kid, I thought the most useful less toys, were girl action figures. I loved Star Wars and GI Joe, but I never had a Princess Leia, Scarlett, or a Lady Jaye action figure.... and I didn't know anybody that did.

    I do see your point though. Boys are exposed to a lot more girl things today, than I was as a kid.
     

    Denny347

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    My niece is "shielded" from germs as best as her parents can do...she is sick all the time. My kids were around nd other kids daily starting at 2. The played outside, wear what they want in winter and the never get sick. Funny how that works.
     

    jamil

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    Kut. I hate you. I'm so depressed. I'd have gone on just fine living in the delusion that we're not too far gone. You've ruined the delusion. Thanks.
     

    churchmouse

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    Kut. I hate you. I'm so depressed. I'd have gone on just fine living in the delusion that we're not too far gone. You've ruined the delusion. Thanks.

    The Marlboro man rode over the hill into the sunset a long time ago. Seems like he had about 50% of the male populations packages with him when he left.
     

    GLOCKMAN23C

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    I had zero interest in princesses as a kid, unless there was some knight saving her. As a kid, I thought the most useful less toys, were girl action figures. I loved Star Wars and GI Joe, but I never had a Princess Leia, Scarlett, or a Lady Jaye action figure.... and I didn't know anybody that did.

    I do see your point though. Boys are exposed to a lot more girl things today, than I was as a kid.

    I had about the same action figures you did, I also had the little green army men. Occasionally they died violently in combat, courtesy of a firecracker, other times they were buried alive in tunnel collapses or hit by a truck. Hell, we may have even strapped one or two to a bottle rocket. Rambo had to save a neighbor girl's princess on a couple occasions, but the princess went home with the neighbor girl.
     

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    This is a timely thread for me. My step grandson has been diagnosed with ADHD, and he is definitely a handful. Some of his behavior just irritates me to no end, but when I stop and think about it, some of it is really just a boy being a boy (breaking stuff, climbing on things he shouldn't be climbing on, etc.). A lot of it is the same kinda stuff I did as a kid, and probably irritated my dad (and Mom to some extent). However, one of his traits is just being mean to other kids. I mean scuffling with other boys is "normal" I think, but he has taken to picking on little girls too, which to me is completely unacceptable. I didn't do it. I was taught to respect girls (and women) and never ever would have thought about doing anything like he does.

    Just this past weekend, at a family reunion in a public park (I wasn't there but DoggyMama was), he apparently pushed a little girl down and took one of her shoes. Needless to say, he got in trouble. DoggyMama had him apologize to the little girl, and when they got home he was sent directly to his bedroom here at our house. After a few minutes, he came out whining and crying because he said he had "cut" his finger. He said something in the couch "poked him". I didn't even see a mark, but you'd have thought he had lost a limb. I told DoggyMama (in front of him so he could hear it clearly) that "little boys that pick on little girls aren't really boys - they're just whiny little girls (didn't want to use the "P" word)". I'm sure there are folks that think ridiculing him like that is inappropriate, but I really don't care. That's something I will not tolerate and it's obvious that he's not being taught to respect girls at home. I don't think he's taught to respect much of anything, truth be told.

    When he and his sister (a major whine-monster) come and spend a couple of days with us, they're totally out of control when they get here. They start getting better towards the end of their stay, because we demand it - doing what they're told, when they're told, with no back talk, please and thank you, etc.. By the time they go back home, they've improved, but the next time they come back we're back to square one. Their father doesn't seem to want to break them of these habits. Other than a stern "don't do that" with no followup or consequences when they misbehave again, he doesn't really do anything. These kids are going to have major problems when they get older I fear.
     

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    My little girl wants to be a Dinosaur for Halloween, she collects bugs, and plays with Tonka trucks in the dirt. She also loves unicorns, and must ALWAYS be wearing something pink. Should I be worried?

    I agree with the original premise of this thread. Kids, in general, are much too sheltered today. My wife and I decided long ago that OUR kid would get some lumps now and then (physical, mental, emotional) and we would help her learn from them. I may be raising a girl, but she will be able to stand on her own. Heck, may HAVE to if some of these "boys" don't straighten up in about 20 years!
     

    churchmouse

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    This is a timely thread for me. My step grandson has been diagnosed with ADHD, and he is definitely a handful. Some of his behavior just irritates me to no end, but when I stop and think about it, some of it is really just a boy being a boy (breaking stuff, climbing on things he shouldn't be climbing on, etc.). A lot of it is the same kinda stuff I did as a kid, and probably irritated my dad (and Mom to some extent). However, one of his traits is just being mean to other kids. I mean scuffling with other boys is "normal" I think, but he has taken to picking on little girls too, which to me is completely unacceptable. I didn't do it. I was taught to respect girls (and women) and never ever would have thought about doing anything like he does.

    Just this past weekend, at a family reunion in a public park (I wasn't there but DoggyMama was), he apparently pushed a little girl down and took one of her shoes. Needless to say, he got in trouble. DoggyMama had him apologize to the little girl, and when they got home he was sent directly to his bedroom here at our house. After a few minutes, he came out whining and crying because he said he had "cut" his finger. He said something in the couch "poked him". I didn't even see a mark, but you'd have thought he had lost a limb. I told DoggyMama (in front of him so he could hear it clearly) that "little boys that pick on little girls aren't really boys - they're just whiny little girls (didn't want to use the "P" word)". I'm sure there are folks that think ridiculing him like that is inappropriate, but I really don't care. That's something I will not tolerate and it's obvious that he's not being taught to respect girls at home. I don't think he's taught to respect much of anything, truth be told.

    When he and his sister (a major whine-monster) come and spend a couple of days with us, they're totally out of control when they get here. They start getting better towards the end of their stay, because we demand it - doing what they're told, when they're told, with no back talk, please and thank you, etc.. By the time they go back home, they've improved, but the next time they come back we're back to square one. Their father doesn't seem to want to break them of these habits. Other than a stern "don't do that" with no followup or consequences when they misbehave again, he doesn't really do anything. These kids are going to have major problems when they get older I fear.

    Parenting.....the lost art of the millennials.

    Look at my avatar......those 2 are a force of nature. They can and will overwhelm you. We see them every day as they live next door. You put them, their 8 year old sister and my sons 3 year old in the same room and it is on kiddy style. Normal sibling rivalry's and all.
    This said, they ask, say please and thank you. They will apologize when they need to and are being steered in the right direction.
    It is the absolute hardest thing we undertake in this life being parents and good grand parents. This is lost on much of the current reproducers.
     

    churchmouse

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    My little girl wants to be a Dinosaur for Halloween, she collects bugs, and plays with Tonka trucks in the dirt. She also loves unicorns, and must ALWAYS be wearing something pink. Should I be worried?

    I agree with the original premise of this thread. Kids, in general, are much too sheltered today. My wife and I decided long ago that OUR kid would get some lumps now and then (physical, mental, emotional) and we would help her learn from them. I may be raising a girl, but she will be able to stand on her own. Heck, may HAVE to if some of these "boys" don't straighten up in about 20 years!

    This was my girl growing up with 4 brothers. She did love her dolls. I would get her some very cool ones for her birthday and Christmas.
    She is also the very last person in this world you want to mess with. She is very proficient in self defense and has had me on the ground more than a few times.
    Her brother is not to be trifled with either. I remember him doing the tea party thing with her when they were both very young.
    She is a loving mother and a good person overall.....just do not get up in her mug....will not end well for you.
     
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    I did my job. My son's no **55y. He's a couple quarters away from a ME degree, but he's also the most manly man I know. We allowed him to fail. He learned to hate failure and strive for excellence. One of my favorite quotes is his, "There's no disgrace in losing, only failing to try." I believe he said it when BNL lost to Center Grove after winning their first ever sectional in 37 years of trying back in 2011. He and his team mates left it all on the field. They were soundly beaten. But, they were the first BNL football team to ever make it that far. They were disappointed, not satisfied, but definitely not disgraced. They left the field bloody and on the short end of the score, but men with their heads up. They carry that lesson now in their lives, their university careers, their jobs, their families. All of that started in church and in parents that hated lies and rewarded effort. Failure to try was never an option. Work was always a good thing.
     
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