Protect yourself from Hammers...

The #1 community for Gun Owners in Indiana

Member Benefits:

  • Fewer Ads!
  • Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership
  • Discuss anti-gun legislation
  • Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section
  • Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses
  • Discover free outdoor shooting areas
  • View up to date on firearm-related events
  • Share photos & video with other members
  • ...and so much more!
  • Timjoebillybob

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 100%
    1   0   0
    Feb 27, 2009
    9,418
    149
    Death by Hammers: Should he Have Been Armed?

    ^^^As SAD as it seems, YES, hammers can kill.

    Also SO sad is the fact that SOME of the Teens these days think nothing of another person's life!

    Friends, CARRY your defensive handguns ALWAYS!!

    So sad that a life was taken by--HAMMERS--Bill.

    There is one thing in that article that is incorrect. He did have at least one means of defense, that being a 3-4000 lb vehicle.
     

    cosermann

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 100%
    14   0   0
    Aug 15, 2008
    8,392
    113
    Good thing he wasn't carrying a firearm! I mean, he might have killed some of those innocent youngsters in the process. Just think of the hand-wringing, riots, and politicking that would follow. Makes me shudder just thinking about it. No, no. It's far easier for all of us for him to just die like he did (except maybe for him).
     

    calcot7

    Master
    Rating - 100%
    11   0   0
    Dec 12, 2008
    2,571
    38
    Indy N Side
    I wonder what brand, style and weight the hammers were. Time for the studies to commence. I say ban all hammers over 8oz. no straight claws and no handles over 4 inches.
     

    billybob44

    Master
    Site Supporter
    Rating - 100%
    385   0   0
    Sep 22, 2010
    3,452
    47
    In the Man Cave
    We MUST Not blame the Teens...

    I wonder what brand, style and weight the hammers were. Time for the studies to commence. I say ban all hammers over 8oz. no straight claws and no handles over 4 inches.

    ^^^+1

    The ONE Thing for sure--We CAN NOT blame the Teens--We MUST blame the HAMMERS.....Follow the trend??

    No one is taught personal responsibility these days..Bill..
     

    snowwalker

    Expert
    Rating - 100%
    10   0   0
    Apr 13, 2009
    1,126
    48
    In the sticks
    5, yes 5, teenagers beat him to death with hammers. It could just as easily been 8 and a 5 shot revolver is inadequate (not enough ) to carry and protect yourself with. This type of group violence is becoming more common place and we should carry accordingly, if not, you're just fooling yourself and hoping for the best.
     

    Kutnupe14

    Troll Emeritus
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Jan 13, 2011
    40,294
    149
    Should he have been armed? With a gun? Who knows? Firearms aren't for everybody. What should he have done was stay in his car, and if need be, run the hooligans over.
     

    printcraft

    INGO Clown
    Site Supporter
    Rating - 100%
    16   0   0
    Feb 14, 2008
    39,063
    113
    Uranus
    Should he have been armed? With a gun? Who knows? Firearms aren't for everybody. What should he have done was stay in his car, and if need be, run the hooligans over.


    If by "stay in his car" you mean that tactically, the best idea, on the face of it...... I agree.

    If you mean that he is in some way culpable for what happened to him, I could not disagree more.
    The ONLY guilty person(s) in this scenario are the perpetrators of the murder of this man.
     

    Kutnupe14

    Troll Emeritus
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Jan 13, 2011
    40,294
    149
    If by "stay in his car" you mean that tactically, the best idea, on the face of it...... I agree.

    If you mean that he is in some way culpable for what happened to him, I could not disagree more.
    The ONLY guilty person(s) in this scenario are the perpetrators of the murder of this man.

    Unless he was banging himself in the head with a hammer, I don't see how anyone could think he was responsible for his own death.
     

    2A_Tom

    Crotchety old member!
    Site Supporter
    Rating - 100%
    3   0   0
    Sep 27, 2010
    26,086
    113
    NWI
    Good thing he wasn't carrying a firearm! I mean, he might have killed some of those innocent youngsters in the process. Just think of the hand-wringing, riots, and politicking that would follow. Makes me shudder just thinking about it. No, no. It's far easier for all of us for him to just die like he did (except maybe for him).

    It is most likely easier to die than to go through the troubles he would endure. Would it be easier to die or have your life ruined.
     

    mrortega

    Master
    Rating - 100%
    14   0   0
    Jul 9, 2008
    3,693
    38
    Just west of Evansville
    Gawd! What next? Being in your vehicle when you're harassed or attacked gives you several advantages the chief one being that if someone manages to break out a window in an attempt to get in or get you out or pulls your door open they've just agreed to be shot. There isn't a question about if/when you should think about shooting like you would have if you are walking down the street. The door comes open, it's time to pull the trigger. My wife knows to duck back, close her eyes and cover her ears if someone attacks from the passenger side. She might get a nasty bruise or burn from a hot .45 case hitting her in the face but that's just a little collateral damage. I see your hammer and raise you one Glock.
     

    roscott

    Master
    Rating - 97.5%
    39   1   0
    Mar 1, 2009
    1,655
    83
    In all seriousness however, if it were a black man killed by white thugs, wouldn't it be termed a "hate crime?" Bosnian or not, couldn't it be possible that they killed him simply because he was white?

    It seems like any crimes against an individual with white skin cannot be hate crimes, because white is apparently the absence of race?
     

    Kutnupe14

    Troll Emeritus
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Jan 13, 2011
    40,294
    149
    In all seriousness however, if it were a black man killed by white thugs, wouldn't it be termed a "hate crime?" Bosnian or not, couldn't it be possible that they killed him simply because he was white?

    It seems like any crimes against an individual with white skin cannot be hate crimes, because white is apparently the absence of race?

    Hate crimes against whites, are about 20% of the total. It just doesn't get a lot of press.
     
    Top Bottom