WTF is wrong with this country!!!

[Leadeye]

During my working career I spent a lot of time in real Mexico, not tourist Mexico. It's tough to work legally down there, paperwork to fill out, fees to pay, etc. They really did not want some gringo engineer down there fixing things that they screwed up. Executives at our company were really impressed that thier engineers worked for 25% of what ours were paid but strangly forgot the reasons we were constantly sent there for.

The grinding poverty and corruption in Mexico is hard to comprehend until you have experienced it, by comparison the US is paradise even at the lowest economic levels. This country will need something like the iron curtain in europe of the 60s to stop illegal immigration physically.

The only other way to stop it is to take away the incentive to come here which will take draconian legal measures. No employment or government services without legal documentation and apply the penalties to both sides of the transaction. Deport the illegal and prosecute the employer. Make company executives responsible and enforce jail time, fines are just seen as the cost of doing business.

I'm betting nothing serious will be done as there are too many people in this country getting rich from illegal immigration and too many reasons for the illegals to come here.

 

[chraland51]

Were not the first warning signs in Arizona put up on GW's watch? This crap has been going on for some time. It is hard to believe that there are actually parts of this country that an American citizen can not enter without being in danger from FOREIGN invaders. What is wrong with our leaders? Why does not the governor of Arizona do something about it with the National Guard if our presidents are not willing to do what they swore to do---something about enemies both FOREIGN and domestic????? Am I missing something here? I would suspect that there is something here more than meets the eye or what we are being told. How has this been going on for so long, but I have only recently heard about those parts of Arizona being closed off? Something really stinks here!!!

 

[dman65]

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Although this quote does not directly address the boarder issue, I believe it to be an accurate summery of the fundamental issue with our country.
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”
We sit back and ***** but the truth is it is our neighbors, friends and family that have gotten this country to the point we are at today.
Don’t even get me going on the schools and our teachers. That’s just a topic that puts me over the moon.
In short, WE have done this to ourselves. Either by way of bad decisions, not standing up for what we believe or in most cases sitting here on the computer complaining and waiting for someone else to fix the problem. We are all so good (me included) at laying the blame solely on our elected officials (who innocently we allowed to be elected into office)
You know WTF happened to our country. I suggest you do as I have done and get up off the computer, walk up to the nearest mirror and ask yourself one question.
What have I done to prevent this?

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[TheGuy]

I am sorry but when I sit and watch the TV and everyone is worried and going on about the oil spill which is horrible don't get me wrong but why not the outrage over the border!! I just found out today that a park in AZ has put up signs in the USA our country AMERICA warning citizens about dangerous illegals! SIGNS they put up a damn SIGN!!!! I don't know about you but this is outrageous a motherloving SIGN!!! some 80 miles into our country there are SIGNS! "Hey Obama pull your **** out of BP's *** and go to the Arizona border and proclaim they are safe! (maybe a drug dealer would be passing along and get agitated) Anyway WTF is wrong there has to come a time when us Americans quit *****footing around and get some blood on our hands, Those Mexicans running across the border don't care about you or I, How about we round up all these Liberal tree hugging, peace to all turds and plant them down on the border and let them be the welcoming commitee! I am sure more than one or two would have a couple of bullet holes in their head from their loving friends from south of the border! I am sorry for the rant but sometimes I feel like being a fart in a whirlwind! God help us all.

Why dont YOU go down to AZ and "get some blood on" your hands? You seem so passionate about it, well go ahead.

BTW, I wonder if you could share with me exactly how you are personally affected by the whole illegal immigration thing. Have you been robbed? Has your family? Or are these just things you saw on TV?

 

[Greenmonsta79]

TheGuy you sound like a regular smart ass liberal, Yes the Illegals are robbing YOU and ME! But obviously your small mind can not wrap around that fact that they don't pay taxes I paid $4000.00 In property taxes this year and hell yes I am pissed! If I had no family and no children I would probably load up the truck and head that way, What the hell do you think Davy Crockett would say about this situation? This has been a problem for a long, long time and now the pot has been on the stove far too long and boiling over! Last time I went over on the west side of Indy I almost puked, Why in America do we have Spanish only billboards in Hispanic parts of town? TheGuy If I was down there in Arizona and I saw a Illegal running across the border I would shoot him dead on the spot in a minute and not feel bad about it because if our government won't secure the border then at least the people better start doing it!

 

[TheGuy]

TheGuy you sound like a regular smart ass liberal, Yes the Illegals are robbing YOU and ME! But obviously your small mind can not wrap around that fact that they don't pay taxes I paid $4000.00 In property taxes this year and hell yes I am pissed! If I had no family and no children I would probably load up the truck and head that way, What the hell do you think Davy Crockett would say about this situation? This has been a problem for a long, long time and now the pot has been on the stove far too long and boiling over! Last time I went over on the west side of Indy I almost puked, Why in America do we have Spanish only billboards in Hispanic parts of town? TheGuy If I was down there in Arizona and I saw a Illegal running across the border I would shoot him dead on the spot in a minute and not feel bad about it because if our government won't secure the border then at least the people better start doing it!

If you want to kill immigrants, great. I'm not going to stop you. I believe in personal liberty so if it makes you happy, go for it. But dont be mad if someone beats you to the draw and kills you first. Lots of those folks crossing the borders are packing and you might have to shoot it out with several of them at a time.

When it comes to paying taxes, thats the federal governement robbing you, not some Mexican guy cutting grass. He's playing a system that existed before he got here. If you want to get rid of taxes, you're going to have to get rid of your beloved American government. The Republicans are going to tax you too, btw.

But, while I cannot speak for you, I can speak for myself when I say I have not been robbed by any individual people. No illegals, no legals, no blacks, no whites. The only robbery I have ever known comes from the federal and state governments of the United States of America.

 

[printcraft]

If you want to kill illegal invaders, great. .........

FTFY

 

[TheGuy]

FTFY

Thanks.

Do you have any American Indian friends? Their land was stolen by a stronger force than they could put up. Too bad for them, right? I think so. And if the current Americans dont start defending the land they claim to love so much, it will be stolen from them. Lots of big talkers around, but nobody actually takes their guns to the border.

 

[printcraft]

Thanks.

Do you have any American Indian friends? Their land was stolen by a stronger force than they could put up. Too bad for them, right? I think so. And if the current Americans dont start defending the land they claim to love so much, it will be stolen from them. Lots of big talkers around, but nobody actually takes their guns to the border.

Well since you ask, I'll do you one better.
There is American Indian on mom's side of the family.
So I guess I would qualify as a friend of myself.

Little to obvious. Still waiting 4 ur response.

 

[longbarrel]

N.A.F.T.A. and China. And grown ass adults that are not willing to take responsibility for their own actions. Let's not forget.....GREED.

 

[flightsimmer]

BTW, I wonder if you could share with me exactly how you are personally affected by the whole illegal immigration thing. Have you been robbed? Has your family? Or are these just things you saw on TV? THEGUY.

No! Not yet. But should we wait untill the thief is at the door of our house or in the house before we call 911? How do you think that will work out for you? Remember, when seconds count the Police are only minutes away. Oh, and do we get to pick and choose which laws we want enforced and when or can we just start ignoring the ones we don't like? "Buckle Up" Right now our biggest threat is in the WH.

 

[Regionnus Rattis]

I wonder what the Cabela's MILF at the gun counter thinks? :o)

 

[$mooth]

But, while I cannot speak for you, I can speak for myself when I say I have not been robbed by any individual people. No illegals, no legals, no blacks, no whites. The only robbery I have ever known comes from the federal and state governments of the United States of America.

Well I have been. You see, My family immigrated legally to the US. INS estimates the number of illegals coming into the US, and pushes the legal ones back. So we applied in 1983 and got our green cards in 1995. Do I blame INS? no. They're doing what every other country on earth does and is tring to protect their country from swarms of immigrants.

 

[TopDog]

Well I have been. You see, My family immigrated legally to the US. INS estimates the number of illegals coming into the US, and pushes the legal ones back. So we applied in 1983 and got our green cards in 1995. Do I blame INS? no. They're doing what every other country on earth does and is tring to protect their country from swarms of immigrants.

Props to you and your family for doing things the right way. Reped for the right reasons.

 

[dhdoug]

i know that without getting into a crapload of details saying this may seem kinda off the cuff but, i would ,without a doubt, go down there for a week or two and serve in border duty. people could volunteer a week or so at a time. i dunno all the details but i would go ..................load up guys.

 

[buffalo-springfield40]

i know that without getting into a crapload of details saying this may seem kinda off the cuff but, i would ,without a doubt, go down there for a week or two and serve in border duty. people could volunteer a week or so at a time. i dunno all the details but i would go ..................load up guys.

i think its great that americans would go to the border and volunteer to secure this great land....but with almost 10% of the ppl out of work..why don't Obama just hire about 200,000 unemployed american and kill 2 birds with one stone...secure the borders and get ppl back to work...oh yea i forgot,,,he's a liberal...nevermind!

 

[TopDog]

i think its great that americans would go to the border and volunteer to secure this great land....but with almost 10% of the ppl out of work..why don't Obama just hire about 200,000 unemployed american and kill 2 birds with one stone...secure the borders and get ppl back to work...oh yea i forgot,,,he's a liberal...nevermind!

Right, but he is not just a Liberal that would be bad enough. He is a socialist working to bring about a new world order where there are only two types of people, the rich that govern and the poor that serve.

 

[dukeboy_318]

well they had arrows, and we have guns. I will be one to stand up to make sure history doesnt repeat itself, and I know many will be beside me! if they can run fast enough

count me in as well


oh and heres something to chew on, a man was arrested in columbus earlier this week for illegally being in the US, this man was wanted for several things, he has been deported 7 prior times, 7!!!! I proposed that if you get caught in the country illegally more than once, it becomes a crime punishable by.... and i know this is extreme and maybe over the top, but make it punishable by death.

i have no problems with LEGAL immigrants, heck my grandparents came from germany after WW2 LEGALLY! Its those that make it through illegally that ticks me off. Maybe obama/congress should take the money that goes to stupid projects like the 250million given to a univeristy in New york to study how a body decayes, thatd hire a ton of new guards.

Oh and build a wall, 30 ft wide, 50 ft high, 30 ft deep, line it with Ma Deuces and 240Bs and roving guards, maybe a mine field or 2 facing the mexican side of the border. in other words, build the great wall of America.

Maybe people need to remember the Alamo and what Mexico did to the citizens of Texas prior to the Texas/Mexican War and even during.


okay, rant over

 

[chraland51]

This current clown in the white house is knowingly doing everything he can to break this country. We could run everyone out of that no man's land in Arizona almost overnite if the federal government wanted to. Where is the outrage from the rest of our elected officials??? There is something here more than meets the eye!!! Did you hear about one of the Louisiana clean up efforts that was stopped by the feds for safety violations?? They did not have a life preserver for everyone on the boat. This clown community organizer does not the Gulf cleaned up as indicated by his refusal to waive some permit requirements and laws so that barriers can be built and equipment can be brought into the area for the cleanup efforts. This has to either be completely intentional or totally stupid and incompetent. The seafood industry is ruined. The oil and gas industry is in shambles and the tourist industry is almost non existent in those areas. If they screw around until a hurricane or big tropical storm hits the area, the inland damage will be very severe. It is all part of a concerted effort on the part of the bammer to reshape this country into the socialist paradise that he and his communist/socialist buddies talked about when he was young, impressionable and completely stupid. I would not be surprised to see some forms of sharia law implemented within our borders. The problems in Arizona is just one small part of his overall plan to decimate this country. Every time I think that there is nothing else that he could attack that I value, I get surprised almost daily. Just my two cents.