Who do you believe? Now it's 4 handguns & no AR

[z96Cobra]

Not sure if this is a dupe, hard to search from phone.

Anyone see this news clip before? Four handguns found inside with shooter & the AR is back in the trunk again. I'm not sure of the timeframe of this video.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS1x9RtSvis&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]

 

[EasyBakeGunClub]

As we found out in Portland, it takes time for details to come out - more so with the current gun control furor. Over the next week the story will emerge in full.

 

[Hookeye]

It'd be a lot clearer if there was a writer's strike.

 

[Yukon622]

I'm sure they will say he used both equally because ALL GUNS ARE EVIL.

 

[NHT3]

The news media has gotten everything wrong on this from the start because they have an agenda. On the other hand they are waiting for more information before saying much about the 4 Americans there were murdered in Bengazi??? Maybe because it doesn't fit their agenda... Just sayin
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[Classic]

Eric Holder meets with Newtown First Responders

It is about halfway down this article but isn't it a little odd the the AG would be having this meeting? Just to shake hands or to get stories straight?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12...cy-lanza-bought-1-of-her-guns-raided-by-feds/

This way the "official" story can come out perhaps without opposition from eyewitnesses?

 

[gunman41mag]

The facts will come out after obama starts a gun ban

 

[Hookeye]

If they just outlawed dual wielding..........

 

[drillsgt]

I don't know what is so complex about it, it's cut and dried physical evidence, it's not DNA, prints etc. It should be fairly straightforward.

 

[cobber]

I don't know what is so complex about it, it's cut and dried physical evidence, it's not DNA, prints etc. It should be fairly straightforward.

First they have to decide which agenda they will use the crisis to promote.

 

[melensdad]

The very first reports I saw were that the shooter used a Glock & a Sig Sauer inside the school. The same reports said a "Bushmaster assault weapon" was found in the car. Some said the trunk of the car.

Once the media picked up the term "assault weapon" from the initial coverage then it became a story about "assault weapons" and killing children.

 

[WestSider]

I have also questioned this from the very beginning. I heard initially that the rifle was supposedly in the car and he only brought pistols in. Then the story changed to he used the rifle primarily in the school and a shotgun was left in the car... you don't have to be a forensic expert to tell what guns were brought in and used.

 

[wolfman]

The very first reports I saw were that the shooter used a Glock & a Sig Sauer inside the school. The same reports said a "Bushmaster assault weapon" was found in the car. Some said the trunk of the car.

Once the media picked up the term "assault weapon" from the initial coverage then it became a story about "assault weapons" and killing children.

The report I saw, said the gun in the car was a Saiga shotgun. The size of the magazine was not mentioned, but the reporter made sure to mention that it was capable of having a 50 round drum attached to it.

 

[Hookeye]

Holder probably visited to dump .223/5.56 cases in the school.
Watch the moron use new/unprimed cases.

 

[shawnba67]

I thought i read somewhere that all the victims had multiple wounds from a 223 rifle they made sure to say similar to the bushmaster. How can that be done with two pistols?

 

[Classic]

Eric Holder visited the First Responders in Newtown yesterday. I say he is helping them coordinate stories to present the most convenient one for the Admin.

 

[indygoat]

The mainstream media has totally smurffed this thing up. When they thought it was the AR that was the primary weapon, I was getting push notifications from FOXNEWs and my phone left and right. Now the change, and many sources have this story buried. The misinformation is ridiculous, and the liberal consumption of it is ever worse! They can't even get the misinformation fed to them by the media right!

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I don't know what is so complex about it, it's cut and dried physical evidence, it's not DNA, prints etc. It should be fairly straightforward.

Physical evidence is never straightforward. Lots of stuff to get wrong.

It never is what it initially appears to be. Never.

Not the cops fault, but it is often like a Rorschach test. People, even good coppers, see what they WANT to see (well, sometimes criminal defense attorney see what they WANT to see too).

Wait and see what develops.

 

[Hookeye]

Should be pretty easy to know what rounds were used, unless the shooter policed his brass (and then dumped them someplace not visisble).

I doubt incompetence on the part of the media.

Throw enough BS out there and then later pick what you want your story to be.

 

[drillsgt]

Physical evidence is never straightforward. Lots of stuff to get wrong.

It never is what it initially appears to be. Never.

Not the cops fault, but it is often like a Rorschach test. People, even good coppers, see what they WANT to see (well, sometimes criminal defense attorney see what they WANT to see too).

Wait and see what develops.

Actually it is pretty straigthforward (in the specific example of the firearms), if a rifle was in the trunk it was in the trunk. Unless a glock and a sig happened to fall out of a students book bag, then if there were handguns found at the scene (in the school) then it's pretty straightforward. Now it's possible the investigators could be a bunch of clowns I can't attest to that but I know what should have happened. I know our final test for crime scene investigation at CID school was a ***ch but there was no question of what was where right down to three measured reference points with pictures, diagrams, etc. etc. You're right there is always the interpretation that can be clouded but knowing what guns were where should be uncontested at this point.