Which .380

[MoviePro314]

for concealed carry?

Kel-Tec P3AT
NAA Guardian
Ruger LCP

Likes? Dislikes? Why?

 

[shooter521]

Kahr P380 when the become available.

Of the ones you mention, I'd take the LCP; it is more refined than the Kel-Tec, is much lighter and less expensive than the Guardian, and has a better trigger than both.

 

[gglass]

The LCP all the way.

Even when I carry a larger handgun, my LCP is with me 100% of the time.

My constant companion:

 

[calcot7]

Well, since it hasn't been picked yet I will have to say the Kel-Tec. Mainly because it is the one I own and it is broken in and functions flawlessly with Winchester Silver Tips.

 

[92FS]

Bersa Thunder 380.

 

[dasanii19]

Kahr P380 when the become available.

Of the ones you mention, I'd take the LCP; it is more refined than the Kel-Tec, is much lighter and less expensive than the Guardian, and has a better trigger than both.

I cant track down the Kahr P380 for the life of me. I have called 10 gun shops all over the US trying to find one in stock.

 

[cosermann]

Of the ones listed by the OP. I vote Kel-Tec. Better value for the dollar than the LCP. Better warranty. In the tests I've seen it comes out on top by objective measures (reliability, accuracy, etc). The LCP IS more cosmetically pleasing, however (nicer fit and finish and all that).

If one gets scope creep and starts looking at guns the size of the Bersa Thunder 380/SIG P232/Walther etc., (a different size category, IMO) one might as well carry a 9mm.

 

[MoviePro314]

9mm vs 380

I intend to carry a 9mm, strongly considering the P250 for its size/feel and price.

The 380 is meant to be a rig that is easier to carry/conceal on a daily basis, when the 9mm would be too large/uncomfortable.

Of the ones listed by the OP. I vote Kel-Tec. Better value for the dollar than the LCP. Better warranty. In the tests I've seen it comes out on top by objective measures (reliability, accuracy, etc). The LCP IS more cosmetically pleasing, however (nicer fit and finish and all that).

If one gets scope creep and starts looking at guns the size of the Bersa Thunder 380/SIG P232/Walther etc., (a different size category, IMO) one might as well carry a 9mm.

 

[cosermann]

Have you considered a 9mm as a second, smaller gun? The ammo compatability would be nice. Something like the Kahr PM9 maybe (although this may be more $$ than you want to spend).

 

[shooter521]

I vote Kel-Tec. Better value for the dollar than the LCP. Better warranty. In the tests I've seen it comes out on top by objective measures (reliability, accuracy, etc).

How is the KT a better value? The Ruger should be within $10 or $20 in price at most reasonable vendors, and I would think the improvement in the trigger pull and overall quality would be worth that.

Better warranty? Ruger has no expressed warranty, but in reality, they will stand behind their products and take care of their customers. I've never known Ruger to refuse to service one of their guns, be it new or used.

Finally, in what forums or publications have you seen the P3AT and LCP tested head-to-head in an apples-to-apples comparison? I'd be interested in seeing those results for myself.

 

[chasekerion4]

I vote for the Bersa .380 also.

I hated my LCP - deeply; except it was easy to throw in the pocket for quick trips

But in reality, the way things are right now, I vote for D - none of the above. Only because the ammo you CAN find for those .380's is gonna cost you $1.00 per round or more, because you just can't find target rounds. So you'll be practicing with self defense rounds. For the money, you might as well use that money you'd be blowing on ammo and buy a .45.

All ammo is scarce right now, but .380 is just out of control.

That's just my

 

[IndyGunworks]

Bersa Thunder 380.

that would be my vote they are fantastic guns for the money

 

[amboran]

Bersa Thunder 380-my everyday carry. Great quality and dependability.

 

[repair]

I'm not sure how you wouldn't like the LCP, I really like mine...... I agree that the Bersa is neat but it's not much smaller them my .45 sub Glock.

 

[Soundslikejosh]

Have you considered a 9mm as a second, smaller gun? The ammo compatability would be nice. Something like the Kahr PM9 maybe (although this may be more $$ than you want to spend).

This is a suggestion that deserves a second thought. The Kahr PM9 is an interesting piece, and is quite a bit lighter (and cheaper) than the MK series.

Are there any members who have a PM9? Would you consider it a "pocket pistol"?

 

[Soundslikejosh]

The MK40 is 5.35" x 4" x 0.94" and 23.1 oz. empty

The PM9 is 5.30" x 4" x 0.90" and 14 oz. empty

KT P3AT is 5.2" x 3.5" x 0.77" and 8.3 oz. empty

LCP is 5.16" x 3.6" x 0.82" and 9.4 oz. (didnt specify empty or loaded)




The Kahr PM9 may be a viable alternative to the pocket 380, and is the slightly smaller but much lighter than the 40 you have shot.

 

[Yamadog35]

Are there any members who have a PM9? Would you consider it a "pocket pistol"?

Well, this is not what the OP wanted, but yes, I consider the PM9 a reasonable pocket pistol. Mine has become my every day carry in front pocket. I also have an LCP so I have done real life comparison. Weight is the big difference in my opinion, but I can carry the PM9 as easy as the LCP. Shoots nice too. (Sorry for the Hi-Jack)
Here are a couple of comparison shots:

 

[MoviePro314]

9mm backup

I have considered it. I guess I just haven't found anything in the size that I was 100% impressed with. That being said, I haven't looked at the PM9.

Anyone have other suggestions for a small, easily concealable, 9mm?

Have you considered a 9mm as a second, smaller gun? The ammo compatability would be nice. Something like the Kahr PM9 maybe (although this may be more $$ than you want to spend).

 

[Principal Skinr]

LCP. Love mine.

 

[66MustangCvt]

LCP. Love mine.

LCP +1

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