That question is answered in my post already. I'm personally not too tolerant of or sympathetic to people who do things which may jeopardize what portion of our 2A rights we're currently still given the privilege of retaining.
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What to do about a drunk person carrying
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That question is answered in my post already. I'm personally not too tolerant of or sympathetic to people who do things which may jeopardize what portion of our 2A rights we're currently still given the privilege of retaining.
redneckmedic
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I don't intervine when people are acting irresponsible.
Getting intoxicated while carrying is irresponsible.
The End.
Getting intoxicated while carrying is irresponsible.
The End.
Sgt.Striker
Plinker
unless the man was threatening someone or acting aggressively i would have done nothing. there is a reason the police cant charge you with a DUI unless you take a breathalyzer. the reason is that no person i have ever heard of is capable of determining someones BAC by looking at them. maybe the "Drunk" guy has some sort of neurological condition that causes him to sway when he walks (unlikely i know but hear me out). my dad has menieres disease which affects the equilibrium and sometimes when he is walking he appears to be drunk(even though ive never seen him drunk )if someone saw him with his .45 on his belt and called the police just because he wasnt walkin so straight id have a problem with it. why potentially ruin someones night by causing them unneeded harrassment by police? and until they make a law stating which ways of carry are acceptable and which are not then the method of carry is irrelevant. btw id never do that i have more common sense but its not illegal.
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Buy him another round then offer him some help home.
I get most my handguns this way.
(and you think I go for the women?)
Not just Drunk but just "Drinking" while armed.
It's legal but not the "correct" thing to do for some people.
Why treat a drunk any different if he's carrying or not?
- If he's a fall down drunk or walking into traffic or starting fights then you are a good witness while calling the authorities. In this state he's a harm to himself and others, armed or not.
- A tipsy drinker keeping to himself should be left alone, although if you noticed he's armed, you might want to keep an eye on him but not for your safety (unless he starts cleaning his gun on the bar) but for his safety. Drunk people usually loose their situational awareness after a few shots or so.
Of course most drunks will tell you that they are as "Hawk as a Sharp" when drinking.
I get most my handguns this way.
(and you think I go for the women?)
Not just Drunk but just "Drinking" while armed.
It's legal but not the "correct" thing to do for some people.
Why treat a drunk any different if he's carrying or not?
- If he's a fall down drunk or walking into traffic or starting fights then you are a good witness while calling the authorities. In this state he's a harm to himself and others, armed or not.
- A tipsy drinker keeping to himself should be left alone, although if you noticed he's armed, you might want to keep an eye on him but not for your safety (unless he starts cleaning his gun on the bar) but for his safety. Drunk people usually loose their situational awareness after a few shots or so.
Of course most drunks will tell you that they are as "Hawk as a Sharp" when drinking.
Comparing drunk driving to carrying while drinking/drunk is a bit off. If I go out tonight and get trashed and then try to drive home there is a good chance that I or worse, someone else will be injured or worse. I have been carrying and drinking for years and as far as I know I have never shot anyone.
Thanks all for chiming in, and debating. As he pointed out, its hard to say, but I was curious as I was thinking about it myself, as what would I do. As I had stated on the video, its not illegal, but pretty irresponsible. Keep an eye on him, I dont think I would have called the cops, but it would be a bit harder to mind my business, especially with the way he was carrying. Granted, I know that isn't illegal either, but not safe. Add some drinking in there, goes to the bathroom and blows something off, doesnt look good for gun carriers. On the other hand, I surely wouldnt want to the police to interdict in every part of our lives, especially babysitting us when we are not doing anything illegal, even if its a little unsafe. So many other "sports" and past times come to mind, and I do not think i would want them harassing people there either. I thought it was a pretty good puzzler. Im going to keep this going and see what else we can come up with.
I was just given the standard INGO response. I don't like questions like this because no answer is correct or incorrect.
I think this is very situation dependent.
If he's on his property, he has every right to be a drunk. If he's blitzed and trying to stick a Glock down his waistband, I think I'd get my camera ready for a YouTube gold moment.
If he is threatening, unruly or seems to be so drunk that he is incoherent, then a call to the police may be in order. Along with a good bit of distance.
For those that think that drinking and carrying are not illegal, well, that depends. Public intoxication is illegal everywhere in Indiana, regardless of whether one is armed or not.
If he's on his property, he has every right to be a drunk. If he's blitzed and trying to stick a Glock down his waistband, I think I'd get my camera ready for a YouTube gold moment.
If he is threatening, unruly or seems to be so drunk that he is incoherent, then a call to the police may be in order. Along with a good bit of distance.
For those that think that drinking and carrying are not illegal, well, that depends. Public intoxication is illegal everywhere in Indiana, regardless of whether one is armed or not.
From the video, they said he was at the local Applebee's. Which is private property, so he might be allowed to, however, he was also in his own car before he went in, and was already acting drunk before going to get a couple more. Could even go into the whole drunk driving when he goes to leave as well.
I didn't watch the video, just making a general comment. However, restaurants, stores, etc. are places of public resort for the purposes of the public intoxication law, despite the fact that they are privately owned. Or at least thats what they lead you to believe in criminal justice classes. Case law changes all the time. Lawyers are a flighty and unpredictable bunch.
The first post has a video, although it does not show what happens, he is reading from an email from a someone that asked the firearm blogger a question. He mentions that the guy was already stumbling and showing impaired judgement going up to the Applebee's. To include shoving a glock mexican style down his pants/sweats. As someone else pointed out, would have been good to film, just in case this guy decided to go for a Darwin award and blow something important off
I volted "other". My first impression was "mind my own business" but with one exception. I would not start a conversation with a drunk armed man. However, if I thought it was warranted, I might warn somebody about him. Can't think of a reason to call the police unless there was some violence already involved or emminent.
