What’s the deal on 465 today PO PO?

[VUPDblue]

Public info for cops salaries, how can looking at the damn numbers be influenced by an opinion? I provided links of a cop getting more money for doing exactly what I said in the first place, and you still call me biased and ignorant? I provide links, you provide your word and somehow I am wrong?


Here you go, tell the class again how I am ignorant and that cops don't make any money writing tickets. These were the top 4 links, add the other one I posted and that makes 5 all in different states.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-...PD-officers-used-ticket-scheme-to-3877815.php

NYPD busts cop for writing dozens of phony traffic tickets as part of overtime scam - NY Daily News

https://www.thenewspaper.com/news/05/587.asp

Dragonaters: Cop arrested for fake traffic tickets and overtime fraud to meet illegal quota



I used to disagree with this cop on another gun forum, he like you would say how cops are never wrong and everybody else is mistaken.
Former officer Erich Fritz sentenced to a year in jail, 5 years probation | WWMT
A cop that I am sure you would say gets no special treatment did 1 day in jail. But my biases must have that wrong as well.

At the end of the day to say I don't take some smug cops word for something would be an understatement.



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Link #1 - a fraud case listing bogus officer witnesses for court OT. No money made off ticket quota.

Link #2 - claiming OT but not complying with the parameters of said OT. No money made off ticket quota.

Link #3 - 16 year old news story about ticket quota bonuses. Procedures and policies now prevent such shenanigans.

Link #4 - claiming OT but writing fraudulent tickets.



On its face, the statement that cops get extra pay for writing tickets is false. Look up cop salaries for yourself and see. There are overtime details available to write tickets. These are voluntary details and not part of an officer’s regular pay.

 

[VUPDblue]

Also, nobody here has ever said that cops are never wrong. Anyone who believes such a thing is willfully ignorant. A police officer is doing a job, much like you have a job, and is a human being. Human beings are imperfect and sometimes wrong, no matter their profession.

 

[jsharmon7]

When I was in patrol I never got a bonus for tickets. I wonder who I should talk to about my missing pay? I will tell them a truck driver posted on the Internet that I had quotas and got bonuses for tickets. Seems legit.

 

[Trigger Time]

I don't have an issue with cops patrolling and giving tickets. I don't like the feds injecting federal money into my community though. Let communities handle their own **** and if they can't they need to find out why, not steal money from tax payers in other areas.
The only thing I would like to see change with law enforcement is making cops patrol their own neighborhoods and not anywhere else. Yeah i guess the Southside would be covered well lol. I guess I would mandate that we have X amount of positions in X Y Z neighborhoods and if you live in XYZ then apply. There wouldn't be anymore of living in another county or city but policing mine. Nope. You live here and you work here. We can do that with government positions and we should. Just like politicians have to live in the districts they represent. The poloticians that don't are always some of the ones pulling shady stuff.
I believe community policing truly means policing your own community. Your own neighbors who know where you live and you know them as well. I believe a lot of the shenanigans on BOTH sides would stop or decrease.
And you are free to disagree with me all you want but don't say I'm anti law enforcement because I'm not.

 

[UTL]

I don't have an issue with cops patrolling and giving tickets. I don't like the feds injecting federal money into my community though. Let communities handle their own **** and if they can't they need to find out why, not steal money from tax payers in other areas.
The only thing I would like to see change with law enforcement is making cops patrol their own neighborhoods and not anywhere else. Yeah i guess the Southside would be covered well lol. I guess I would mandate that we have X amount of positions in X Y Z neighborhoods and if you live in XYZ then apply. There wouldn't be anymore of living in another county or city but policing mine. Nope. You live here and you work here. We can do that with government positions and we should. Just like politicians have to live in the districts they represent. The poloticians that don't are always some of the ones pulling shady stuff.
I believe community policing truly means policing your own community. Your own neighbors who know where you live and you know them as well. I believe a lot of the shenanigans on BOTH sides would stop or decrease.
And you are free to disagree with me all you want but don't say I'm anti law enforcement because I'm not.

A police officer working in your neighborhood for 8-10 hours a day is more engaged in your community than the average homeowner will ever be.

 

[phylodog]

And you are free to disagree with me all you want but don't say I'm anti law enforcement because I'm not.

I gotta disagree but I know you aren't anti LE. There is no way I'd want to be responsible for policing the neighborhood where my kids walk and play. It's been awhile so I'd need to read it again to be sure but IIRC we are prohibited from policing our neighborhoods unless there is a serious threat to someone's safety for this very reason. I've had friends whose spouses and kids were put up in hotels for a few days when someone decided to make threats to an officer's family after being locked up. I don't think it's reasonable to burden an officer's family with the inevitable issues which would arise.

 

[KJQ6945]

If you grew up in say, Haughville, Brightwood, or Mars hill, get on the the PD, make a decent salary, would you stay in those neighborhoods? Hard work is rewarded by moving up.

On the other side, no cop that works in Malibu, could afford to pay rent there, let alone buy a house there.

 

[IndyDave1776]

There are regularly two grant funded projects in Marion County.
One is DUI Indiana, which is a grant funded project to identify and arrest impaired drivers. The stat requirements for this grant are 3 contacts per hour worked when you are NOT processing a DUI arrest. A DUI arrest counts for 3 hours of work. One must average at least 1 DUI arrest per 8 hours of grant worked or they won’t be able to work that grant anymore. This grant also pays experts in drugged driving to be called-out to investigate drivers who are impaired on something other than alcohol.
The other is Operation Pull Over. Different time periods dictate what kind of infractions are targeted. Sometimes it’s seatbelts (click it or ticket), sometimes it’s speeding (slow down and arrive alive), sometimes it’s distracted driving. The requirement for that grant is 4 tickets per hour of grant worked and one of those must be a seatbelt ticket. When you see a large group of officers in one location for a period of time, that’s a location that was chosen based on crash/arrest data and citations looked for are based on the factors involved in crashes at that location. For highway speed projects, generally 15 over is the magic number. Other common violations looked for are semi trucks in the left lane, texting and driving, tailgating and slow drivers in left lane.

So, if you have the 'bad' luck of not having at least one drunk per shift cross paths with you, you are voted off the island?

 

[VUPDblue]

Pretty much. But if you can’t find a drunk in 8 hours of patrol in Marion County then you’re either stupid or lazy.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

INGO always delivers.

 

[Rookie]

INGO always delivers.

Just in case you're on someone's ignore list...

 

[hopper68]

INGO always delivers.

Just in case you're on someone's ignore list...

Just in case both are on someone's ignore list.

 

[WebSnyper]

Pretty much. But if you can’t find a drunk in 8 hours of patrol in Marion County then you’re either stupid or lazy.

Damn, that may be new signature material, but also just kind of sad. Makes me glad I don't drive for a living.

 

[VUPDblue]

I have nights regularly where I make two stops and get 2 DUI arrests.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I should get some kind of commission or finders fee for stopping drunk drivers and handing them off to the DUI cars.

 

[Bigtanker]

Public info for cops salaries, how can looking at the damn numbers be influenced by an opinion? I provided links of a cop getting more money for doing exactly what I said in the first place, and you still call me biased and ignorant? I provide links, you provide your word and somehow I am wrong?


Here you go, tell the class again how I am ignorant and that cops don't make any money writing tickets. These were the top 4 links, add the other one I posted and that makes 5 all in different states.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-...PD-officers-used-ticket-scheme-to-3877815.php

NYPD busts cop for writing dozens of phony traffic tickets as part of overtime scam - NY Daily News

https://www.thenewspaper.com/news/05/587.asp

Dragonaters: Cop arrested for fake traffic tickets and overtime fraud to meet illegal quota



I used to disagree with this cop on another gun forum, he like you would say how cops are never wrong and everybody else is mistaken.
Former officer Erich Fritz sentenced to a year in jail, 5 years probation | WWMT
A cop that I am sure you would say gets no special treatment did 1 day in jail. But my biases must have that wrong as well.

At the end of the day to say I don't take some smug cops word for something would be an understatement.



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What you are doing is lumping bad cops in with the major majority of good officers. So when I compare you to the Vegas shooter, the Texas church murderer or any other "gun owners", you'd be ok with that right?

 

[VUPDblue]

I should get some kind of commission or finders fee for stopping drunk drivers and handing them off to the DUI cars.

I’ll buy you a speedway coffee...

 

[Rookie]

I should get some kind of commission or finders fee for stopping drunk drivers and handing them off to the DUI cars.

You should contact your union rep. Wait a second, a cop and a union member?!? YOU REALLY SUCK!!!

 

[Vigilant]

I’ll buy you a speedway coffee...

What you did there, I saw it! Just another one of your “extra” rights you guys have that us mere mortals don’t get!

 

[VUPDblue]

What? You don’t have a speedy rewards card?