Vaccine coercion/bribery

[Hatin Since 87]

Are you equating not 100% effective with absolutely no effectiveness?

So you’re saying people are rabidly screaming that I need to be vaccinated, for something that isn’t a 100% sure thing, for a virus that vaccinated individuals still get and spread, and that has a 99.7% survival rating without the vaccine? What does the vaccine do, increase it to 99.8%?

 

[bobzilla]

...because they they are comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated as it is not ethical to give someone the virus.

the issue is what to do moving forward and purposely giving people the virus isn't part of that.

Where have I said we needed to give people thevirus? I'm talking about the forcing the jab with people who have already had and recovered. Those people, of which there are millions, have been ignored and howto procede with them has been glossed over.

Look, I am a monster I get it. But I'm not saying give everyone the 'rona (even though it looks like thats whats going to happen with the vax anyway).

 

[Hatin Since 87]

This makes sense, since they likely had the virus prior to getting the vaccine. The vaccine doesn’t do much if you’re already infected.

If I get the vaccine on 8/1 and get infected on 8/5, then die on 8/14, why would that count as unvaccinated?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Are you equating not 100% effective with absolutely no effectiveness?

It seems they're only effective at possibly (still not 100%) reducing the severity of infection. They don't prevent contracting Covid, they don't prevent carrying (and some studies have shown that they enhance it due to higher viral loads in the vaccinated/asymptomatic) Covid, so I really can't blame anyone that says, "What's the point?" And FWIW I've had my 2 Pfizer shots, but the news that's come out just since we got ours kinda has me scratching my head too.

 

[jsharmon7]

If I get the vaccine on 8/1 and get infected on 8/5, then die on 8/14, why would that count as unvaccinated?

Most people don’t die in under two weeks. Unless that had changed in the past year.

EDIT: Average time from first symptom to death is 14 days. Shorter for people over 70.

Source

 

[jsx1043]

Conservatives screaming "my body, my choice!", pushing forged documents, shouting "racism" at things they don't agree with...

****ing clown world.

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Some are just merely illustrating progressive hypocrisy, a concept which you don’t seem to grasp.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Most people don’t die in under two weeks. Unless that had changed in the past year.

I thought the 5th or 9th day was the worst?



Regardless, given the scenario I mentioned, I think that should definitely count as a vaccinated death. Why are they fudging numbers instead of being honest with us? Can’t we make our own decisions with facts, instead of numbers being altered to disguise the facts?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Some are just merely illustrating progressive hypocrisy, a concept which you don’t seem to grasp.

This is the camp I’m in.



It’s either my body my choice, or it isn’t.

 

[bobzilla]

FTR, I've always been your body your choice. I know that won't set well with some but it's not my choice to make for someone else. I'd just like a little A.) honesty and 2.) respect on that. Apparently both are not possible at this point.

 

[Route 45]

99.7% survival rating

Where did that statistic come from? The same CDC that's lying about everything else?

 

[rooster]

Pretty sure I got passed over for a new job bc of my lack of vaccination. Interview seemed to be going great until they asked if I was vaccinated. 3rd and final interview

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Lol!!!! They actually fact checked this meme this is what their fact check says...



Riou, who worked on the paper that the CDC cited for the estimated infection fatality rates, noted that the survival rate listed for those over 70 doesn’t reflect what the paper found. The survival rate for those between ages 70 and 79 would be about 95%, as the sign says, but the rate for those over 80 would be lower, about 70% to 80%, he said. That distinction wasn’t included in the CDC’s report either, though.

More importantly, focusing on the high survival rates minimizes the deadly toll that COVID-19 has already taken.



HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA! Don’t focus on high survival rates. Focus on how many have died to date. ****ing morons.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Where did that statistic come from? The same CDC that's lying about everything else?

Do you disagree with the number?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

 

[Hatin Since 87]

 

[rhamersley]

Don’t focus on high survival rates. Focus on how many have died to date.

From COVID, flu, pneumonia, car crashes, heart attacks, plane crashes……………

 

[Hatin Since 87]

From COVID, flu, pneumonia, car crashes, heart attacks, plane crashes……………

People are seriously ate up over this. 99.8% survival rating. Fact check “well, let’s not focus on the amount survived, nor the percentages being correct or not... let’s focus on how many are dead”.

OMG! QUICK! EVERYBODY PUT SOMETHING IN YOUR BODY THATS NOT EVEN A YEAR OLD!!! If you don’t you’re anti science.


Meh. **** em.

 

[DadSmith]

Biden's top-down booster plan sparks anger at FDA

Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock sent a memo Tuesday evening to vaccine regulators, reiterating her support as frustration over the process spreads within their ranks.

www.politico.com

Two regulators at the FDA resigned from their positions over disagreement with the Biden’s pressure to move forward with COVID booster shots without FDA approval, as well as with the CDC involvement in the vaccine approval process.

Two Top F.D.A. Vaccine Regulators Are Set to Depart During a Crucial Period (Published 2021)

The announcement that Dr. Marion Gruber and Dr. Philip Krause will leave this fall comes as the agency conducts sensitive reviews of coronavirus vaccines for children and booster shots.

www.nytimes.com

Two senior FDA vaccine leaders step down as agency faces decision on boosters

Two senior leaders in the FDA's vaccine review office are stepping down, even as the agency works toward high-profile decisions around Covid-19 vaccine approvals, authorizations for younger children and booster shots.

www.cnn.com

 

[NKBJ]

 

[Hatin Since 87]

A nice gem from the factcheck.org article about the DeSantis meme I posted earlier.


“We know that the vaccines currently in use have been tremendously effective in preventing hospitalizations and death,” Schwartz said. “They all but eliminate the outcomes of COVID-19 that have been so catastrophic.”




So, they don’t eliminate the catastrophic outcomes? So, what’s the point again?