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Vaccine coercion/bribery Part II
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If you're talking about whether he said "for" or "of", I'm not sure. My opinion is that English not being his first language he misspoke and said "for" rather than "of".
But I ain't bettin the farm on my theory. His message was clear.
I was telling TJBB to listen I agreed with your take on this.
The quotes stacked odd…
Timjoebillybob
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Cell and gene, at about 25 seconds in he also says cell or gene therapy.
I did.
I'm pretty sure you're right that English isn't his first language since he's german. He also had absolutely nothing to do with any of the vaccines(different company Bayer) and has no scientific or medical schooling. He's business management, not scientific or medical. Here is his bio.
They out and out say it and we have apologists denying it…
Timjoebillybob
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No apologist. I haven't had it and have no plans to. While not as far out there as some theories such as the vax is going to turn us into some hybrid trans-human or that the vax is for injecting a chip. That it's gene therapy is out there a bit. IMO is was rushed through way to fast with no where near enough short or long term testing. It is way less effective than claimed and probably has a much higher rate of adverse reactions than claimed by the manufactures/govt and probably lower than claimed by some others.
Once again that guy is from a different company than any of them that made the vax and has worked for them right out of high school, he's business management. Again here is a link to his page.
I'm sorry I didn't see this earlier and truly hope you still have some time to put in a religious exemption. Your company should have a required form or a required format for them to be submitted (mine did). Read carefully what is needed and complete it the best you can. This is worth the fight! Yes, it is frustrating and knocks you in the gut that an employer you have worked so hard for and had a spotless history with would suddenly make a call like this. It's garbage! So put in the religious exemption request and buy yourself a little time to think through what your next steps are.
Couple tips that helped me:
1.) read the EEOC website about Religious Accommodation. You are asking them to accommodate your religious beliefs against this vaccine and that is all you need to speak to. Stay completely away from any discussion on the science or side effects or emergency status; your submission is solely to touch on religious beliefs. Please note: to accommodate you, they need to be able to require you to wear a mast or test you weekly (this is a CMS requirement btw) so don't put in your submission that you refuse testing or mask wearing, etc... Don't write a twelve page dissertation of faith. I basically decided it was a great chance to witness to the reader and took them down the 'Roman road'. LOL, if I thought I could have gotten away with it I may have offered an invitation at the end of my letter. Read what the EEOC says, tailor your letter to fit the law that protects the right and it should be seamless.
https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/what-you-should-know-workplace-religious-accommodation
2.) If your employers document requires a 'religious leader' to attest to your beliefs and your pastor won't do it, find one that will. MANY PASTORS ARE COMPLETING THEM BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT TO BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO. Your employer cannot require it to be attested to by a specific person, so if your is a NO find one who will. Mine was completed by a pastor of a church that I am not a member of.
3.) If/when your first letter gets denied, FILE AN APPEAL. Read their letter on why they are declining your exemption and write an appeal that directly addresses their concerns. Yes, you can appeal. Yes, you can win the appeal if you relieve them of whatever they say is causing their inability to accommodate your religious beliefs. You have to turn in the exemption request in their timeline, on their form, and meeting their requirements in order to have an easy right to appeal but if you did all that...you need to appeal. I helped two of my coworkers get their initial denials overturned.
If you want to talk through the process please PM me, I've written and read several. My employer just sent out mandatory Booster surveys from CMS so this is probably going to start up again. I'm just beginning to re-educate myself on what my options are. With the CMS Vaccine requirement for all of healthcare going into effect in February it's clear they are NOT done.
I'm biding my time and want to leave when it's convenient for me and not when my head is spinning and I'm angry. Take the time to put in for an exemption and choose to leave when it's the most advantageous for you and yours.
Blessings ~ OG
Well, had the second meeting late in the week and I am officially suspended without pay due to non-compliance of the CMS mandate. Was told could be up to a month before I will be terminated as they must follow the normal termination process.
There was a division meeting this week as well and they were going on about how now most co-workers are remote and the need to try and meet as a team if possible. Then one of the big wigs started on about getting time to have co-worker lunches and/or cookouts and made sure to let everyone know if you are on an exemption or 100% remote with no shot you can’t come but those people will be in their thoughts when everyone gets together.
Now I know how Danny Noonan felt in Caddyshack when that Bishop invited him to the new Lutheran center. Then told he can’t come because he’s Catholic.
Nothing like certain discrimination acceptable when it is for the “Good” of everyone….
That to me was another sign that it is not worth staying with this company so not getting any shot nor doing an exemption. Thanks to the offer and suggestions OkieGirl if the place was awesome to work at/for that would be one thing but I personally don’t feel like fighting to stay there is worth the trouble or aggravation.
Yep, it was my choice, but I should have never had to be put into the situation in the first place.
I’ll start looking for a job in the coming weeks. Yeah, leaving a place that I have worked at for decades and will take a hit to the hourly take home wage but sometimes it is not always about the money.
So, thanks jackhole Joe and everyone that voted for all this……
There was a division meeting this week as well and they were going on about how now most co-workers are remote and the need to try and meet as a team if possible. Then one of the big wigs started on about getting time to have co-worker lunches and/or cookouts and made sure to let everyone know if you are on an exemption or 100% remote with no shot you can’t come but those people will be in their thoughts when everyone gets together.
Now I know how Danny Noonan felt in Caddyshack when that Bishop invited him to the new Lutheran center. Then told he can’t come because he’s Catholic.
Nothing like certain discrimination acceptable when it is for the “Good” of everyone….
That to me was another sign that it is not worth staying with this company so not getting any shot nor doing an exemption. Thanks to the offer and suggestions OkieGirl if the place was awesome to work at/for that would be one thing but I personally don’t feel like fighting to stay there is worth the trouble or aggravation.
Yep, it was my choice, but I should have never had to be put into the situation in the first place.
I’ll start looking for a job in the coming weeks. Yeah, leaving a place that I have worked at for decades and will take a hit to the hourly take home wage but sometimes it is not always about the money.
So, thanks jackhole Joe and everyone that voted for all this……
Did you try to inconvenience them as they have you? With these forms:
Constitutional lawyers like Robert Barnes are winning these suits and are providing free advice.
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Vaccine Bill of Rights
americasfrontlinedoctors.org
Constitutional lawyers like Robert Barnes are winning these suits and are providing free advice.
Robert Barnes: Informed Consent and Requesting a Religious Exemption | The Washington Pundit
Highlights from a Bourbon with Barnes Q&A livestream by attorney Robert Barnes where he explains what is actually happening with all the vaccine mandate lawsuits, the strategy of the other side (emplo
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Vaccine Bill of Rights
The Vaccine Bill of Rights
MEMORIALIZING RESOLUTION URGING STATES TO IMMEDIATELY ENACT A VACCINE BILL OF RIGHTS A MEMORIALIZING RESOLUTION for the State of [INSERT STATE] to protect its citizens against unconstitutional and medically irresponsible COVID-19 vaccine mandates. Whereas the Founders designated that a Bill of...
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Holy smokes, no one needed to convince this guy to get jabbed.
He was closing in on 100 boosters.
www.wishtv.com
He was closing in on 100 boosters.
Man in Germany gets 90 COVID-19 shots to sell forged passes
BERLIN (AP) — A 60-year-old man allegedly had himself vaccinated against COVID-19 dozens of times in Germany in order to sell forged vaccination cards with real vaccine batch numbers to people not wanting to get vaccinated themselves. The man from the eastern Germany city of Magdeburg, whose...
www.wishtv.com
If I knew where it was I would post the meme that says something like “If this were a real vaccine it would be sold on the black market, instead of counterfeit documents that one had taken it”Holy smokes, no one needed to convince this guy to get jabbed.
He was closing in on 100 boosters.
Man in Germany gets 90 COVID-19 shots to sell forged passes
BERLIN (AP) — A 60-year-old man allegedly had himself vaccinated against COVID-19 dozens of times in Germany in order to sell forged vaccination cards with real vaccine batch numbers to people not wanting to get vaccinated themselves. The man from the eastern Germany city of Magdeburg, whose...
EXCLUSIVE: Army Captain Placed in Mental Hospital for Accusing Commanding General Patrick Donahoe of Pushing Illegal Vaccine | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft
A Captain who filed criminal charges against Commanding General Patrick Donahoe of Fort Benning has been admitted to Fort Benning’s hospital for what they’re deeming a “health crisis.” The Captain’s friends and family are concerned he is being punished for standing up against the illegal vaccine...
www.thegatewaypundit.com
DragonGunner
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Not shocked at all. And nothing will be done.EXCLUSIVE: Army Captain Placed in Mental Hospital for Accusing Commanding General Patrick Donahoe of Pushing Illegal Vaccine | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft
A Captain who filed criminal charges against Commanding General Patrick Donahoe of Fort Benning has been admitted to Fort Benning’s hospital for what they’re deeming a “health crisis.” The Captain’s friends and family are concerned he is being punished for standing up against the illegal vaccine...
Pretty typical communist tactic, accusing your enemies of mental illness…EXCLUSIVE: Army Captain Placed in Mental Hospital for Accusing Commanding General Patrick Donahoe of Pushing Illegal Vaccine | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft
A Captain who filed criminal charges against Commanding General Patrick Donahoe of Fort Benning has been admitted to Fort Benning’s hospital for what they’re deeming a “health crisis.” The Captain’s friends and family are concerned he is being punished for standing up against the illegal vaccine...
Couldn't find the vaccine mandate thread:
dailycaller.com
That is a crock of
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Federal Court Reinstates Joe Biden’s COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate For Federal Workers
A federal appeals court reinstated President Joe Biden's COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal workers Thursday.
dailycaller.com
That is a crock of
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EXCLUSIVE: D.C. Mayor backs off vaccine mandate, boosters for firefighters
But she won't admit it publicly
EXCLUSIVE: D.C. Mayor backs off vaccine mandate, boosters for firefighters
PART 5 - But she won't admit it publicly
www.emilypostnews.com
Couldn't find the vaccine mandate thread:
Federal Court Reinstates Joe Biden’s COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate For Federal Workers
A federal appeals court reinstated President Joe Biden's COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal workers Thursday.
That is a crock of
