WHAT ABOUT A FOBUS HOLSTER FOR A 1911?ARE THOSE WORTH THE MONEY?
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WHAT ABOUT A FOBUS HOLSTER FOR A 1911?ARE THOSE WORTH THE MONEY?
Yup that is a common feeling among some people. I find it odd because I've had people who carry guns like Glocks say that a cocked and locked 1911 is dangerous. I can't understand their justification, especially from Glock owners who have no external safety, a reasonably short trigger pull, and a trigger pull that is only about 1/2# to 1# heavier than a typical 1911.Some people do find chambered, cocked & locked carry unnerving with a 1911. . .
The modern 1911's seem to me to have more fail safe features than any of the striker fired safetyless pistols on the market.
I GUESS I HAVENT PUT MUCH THOUGHT INTO A GOOD HOLSTER,WITH THIS ECONOMY MY FUNDS WERE CUT WAY SHORT,,,,,TOOK A 9% PAY CUT,,,,,,DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO A HOLSTER BETWEEN 50-75.00,WHAT ABOUT A FOBUS HOLSTER FOR A 1911?ARE THOSE WORTH THE MONEY?
I GUESS I HAVENT PUT MUCH THOUGHT INTO A GOOD HOLSTER,WITH THIS ECONOMY MY FUNDS WERE CUT WAY SHORT,,,,,TOOK A 9% PAY CUT,,,,,,DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO A HOLSTER BETWEEN 50-75.00,WHAT ABOUT A FOBUS HOLSTER FOR A 1911?ARE THOSE WORTH THE MONEY?
Some people do find chambered, cocked & locked carry unnerving with a 1911 but one way to think about it is this: you have 2 safeties plus the trigger inbetween you and a discharge.
If you worry about the safety clicking off (which can happen in bad holsters or pockets) and then you only having one safety, then consider this kind of carry:
Notice how the retention strap runs between the hammer and the slide? That acts as an additional safety as well as keeping good retention. I have carried this way myself and felt very comfortable with it. And the additional time drawing from retention is way less than having to rack the slide.
Personally, I like the speed scabbards that angle the firearm forward as it really helps with concealment with an overshirt. I also like a retention strap as it gives me more comfort around children, especially if I take a nap on the couch.
You can get cheap used leather holsters on ebay. I have found plenty of deals from used police supplies as well. A very nice holster will run you $50 and be cheaper than the ones that you bought and hated.
First, you have the safety off in your photo. When I carry a 1911 (about 99% of the time I carry) it is carried with the safety on. Any other way is dangerous unless there is no round in the chamber and if there is no round in the chamber then there is no reason to carry a gun in the first place.
Sorry for the threadjack, but I was just curious if you really believed that carrying a firearm without one in the chamber was equivalent to being completely without a firearm?
This.Yes, assuming you have use of both of your arms/hands at the time.
And I've heard the explanation, "well, I practice cycling the action using one hand, with the rear sight against my pocket, or shoe, or belt, or forehead, or foreskin, or something."It's not that it's the equivalent of not carrying, no - but it's not too far from it. This can be debated easily, but IMO, like I previously said, unless you carry for intimidation purposes, you might not be in a position to be able to rack a round in time in a real life SD situation. Even if you do have the time, you might not take advantage of it because you freeze for a second while being caught off guard.. or you have to fumble with the other safety or.. they grab your arm.. or....
For those who disagree, more power to ya. I hope you practice and get the racking of the slide down in a split second. If you can do it that way, good for you.
Just hope you don't **** yourself when staring at the BG's gun or when he comes charging at you. Wouldn't want all that training to go to waste!
(hint: today I'm carrying with 8 in the chamber. )
8 in the chamber? Thats one hell of a gun
The results were as follows:
Standard method, first 20 trials: average = 1.52 sec, standard deviation (S.D.) = 0.05 sec.
Standard method, all 30 trials: average = 1.48 sec, S.D. = 0.06 sec.
Standard method, last 10 trials: average = 1.43 sec, S.D. = 0.04 sec.
Israeli method, first 20 trials: average = 1.81 sec, S.D. = 0.11 sec.
Israeli method, all 30 trials: average = 1.80 sec, S.D. = 0.10 sec.
Israeli method, last 10 trials: average = 1.77 sec, S.D. = 0.08 sec.
The data indicate that manually cycling the slide cost me about 0.3 second per trial, or about 20 percent more time than using the standard method. That was true of both the trials in which I didn’t try for maximum speed and those in which I made an effort to get the shot off as quickly as possible while still maintaining a reasonable level of accuracy. (Of course, the 20 percent figure is valid only for this particular test which was conducted at a shooting distance of 5 yards; longer ranges would increase average shot time and reduce the percentage that 0.3 second would add, and shorter ranges would increase the time delay percentage.)
As to Israeli carry/Israeli draw, here is a timed trial of the method:
The Israeli Draw: A Timed Comparison
Basically, it requires a second hand, increases response time, and decreases your carry capacity by one round.
That being the case, a 1911 on the hip in a lowered condition of readiness is far superior than the one at home.
I understand where the technique comes from (a compromise that allows citizens with less training to carry with greater safety, and I understand the attraction of the method as well (you MUST be comfortable with the firearm on your hip), but it does have it's detractions which are not insignificant.
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8 in the chamber? Thats one hell of a gun
Technically, one in each of eight chambers.
Smif 'n' Wesn 327PC. N-Frame, round butt, scandium frame, titanium cylinder.
I think I may have seen one of these once before. If you don't mind me asking, how much did that set you back? I've been looking around for a 357 (SP101 mostly) and have been intrigued by the 327. I'm aware that Ruger now offers the SP101 in 327, but that smith looks pretty.
Wait, you don't put a round in the chamber?
I guess you could always draw your gun and throw it at the bad guy's head!
Seriously, though. Can you imagine a scenario where you need to draw fast and the bad guy waits patiently for you while you chamber a round?
Not having one in the chamber is just slightly better than not carrying at all.