The Universality of Those That Worship Statism?

[Kirk Freeman]

Will there always be a percentage of a society that springs forth to serve statism? If so, can it be combatted or even reversed.


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[hornadylnl]

As long as there's tall grass, there'll be statists.

 

[downzero]

As long as there's tall grass, there'll be statists.

I'm pretty sure we could have worldwide nuclear winter and there'd still be statists.

 

[NYFelon]

As long as there's tall grass, there'll be statists.

 

[hornadylnl]

Hey, it takes a village to own a home. Socialism FTW!

 

[IndyDave1776]

Good read. The snare is closing. As weaker people get worn down under burdens, they seek the refuge of childhood in which Dad was responsible for their needs and safety. The statist architects see this and increase the burdens until these people demand intrusive government in the role of a parent without understanding that they are turning to the very enemy of everything they want to give those things to them. One would think they would have learned something from the Russian revolution in which many of the participants ended up much worse off than they were to begin with in terms of wealth, comfort, and safety.

I would charge that useful idiots and willful participants are often one in the same. They willfully participate in the expectation of personal gratification and in doing so are both useful to the new elite and stupid for believing that any of this will benefit them.

 

[netsecurity]

I think the majority of statists are youths, who would normally outgrow it (as is with liberalism). This had to be true in pre-Nazi Germany, since the Brown Shirts (SA) were mostly young men of military age, and as with Fascism, these young men intimidated the opposition with violence. It should be noted that financial destruction of the standing government does seem to be the trigger historically for this sociopathic behavior. I am concerned about our countries financial situation, especially with tagging on Obamacare.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

As long as there's tall grass, there'll be statists

I am sure statist predates grass.

There were Speissburger T-Rexes I am certain.

 

[hornadylnl]

I am sure statist predates grass.

There were Speissburger T-Rexes I am certain.

Yes, but the neighborhood socialists are more than happy to perpetuate the state.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Because they pay property taxes or because they are socialits?

 

[hornadylnl]

Because they pay property taxes or because they are socialits?

Because they seek to control behavior for the common good. IE, property values.

 

[firehawk1]

As long as there's tall grass, there'll be statists.

You mean since there are some who simply refuse to accept the concept of SOCIETY, and how their selfish bullheaded actions directly effect the lives and/or property of others?

 

[hornadylnl]

You mean since there are some who simply refuse to accept the concept of SOCIETY, and how their selfish bullheaded actions directly effect the lives and/or property of others?

The greater good, right?

 

[firehawk1]

The greater good, right?

No, just maybe thinking of more than just oneself, comes with maturity I suppose.....

Thru out time, no man has been an island to himself, and never will be.

 

[hornadylnl]

No, just maybe thinking of more than just oneself, comes with maturity I suppose.....

Thru out time, no man has been an island to himself, and never will be.

Cool. That thought extends to healthcare and welfare right?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Because they seek to control behavior for the common good. IE, property values.

Correct, this is called the rule of law which is far different than statism.

 

[hornadylnl]

Correct, this is called the rule of law which is far different than statism.

Lobbying for and creating laws to control others for your benefit isn't statism? So no existing laws are statist?

 

[firehawk1]

Cool. That thought extends to healthcare and welfare right?

IMO, yes unless it's private charity.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Lobbying for and creating laws to control others for your benefit isn't statism?

No, not per se, depends. If one lobbies for a law that forbids punching other people, even if you fear being punched, that is not statism.

Statism is the use of the government to control economic and/or social policy.

So no existing laws are statist?

Plenty are. Most of the law is economic rent seeking or barriers to entry.

E.g., no booze sales on Sunday. The history of controlled substance laws.

 

[hornadylnl]

IMO, yes unless it's private charity.

If you can use the state to make me cut my grass for your benefit, I can use the state to make you pay for my benefits, correct?