The President Trump Immigration Thread

[ArcadiaGP]

How will that play now? If that's true, will Trump supporters "evolve"? Or will this chink Trump's armor?

To be honest, there's a 99.8% chance Trump thinks that it's a bill that is meant to take down the 8 biggest gangs in the country.

 

[BugI02]

Wow! This is like a virtual Matlock vs Mason!

Which one is which?

 

[printcraft]

How will that play now? If that's true, will Trump supporters "evolve"? Or will this chink Trump's armor?

That's wasis.^^^^^^^^^

 

[jamil]

That's wasis.^^^^^^^^^

I did not consult the urban dictionary first. My bad.

 

[printcraft]

I did not consult the urban dictionary first. My bad.

Oh, the stupidity doesn't end there.......

Army under racial fire for 'chink ... in armor' tweet, retreats with delete button - Washington Times

 

[jamil]

Oh, the stupidity doesn't end there.......

Army under racial fire for 'chink ... in armor' tweet, retreats with delete button - Washington Times

I think rather than retreating, the army should have replied with the real dictionary definition of "chink", and then add in the meme about what safe spaces in the Army look like, suggesting that they consider that if they're thinking about joining.

 

[amboy49]

Don't know how this morphed into an Army thing but a local news channel just said Trump's EO on immigration was not valid.

So now my question becomes - did Trump consult any of his chosen lawyers before signing the EO, if so who are they, and . . . . what is their position on why they think they are correct ?

I assume this will be challenged in the Supreme Court.

 

[jbombelli]

Don't know how this morphed into an Army thing but a local news channel just said Trump's EO on immigration was not valid.

So now my question becomes - did Trump consult any of his chosen lawyers before signing the EO, if so who are they, and . . . . what is their position on why they think they are correct ?

I assume this will be challenged in the Supreme Court.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-appeals-court-rule-trump-travel-ban-end-221506876--nfl.html

 

[ArcadiaGP]

9th Circuit rules against reinstating travel ban - CNNPolitics.com

Ruling is not decision on ban's merits; it keeps temporary restraining order suspending travel ban in place

The Justice Department is reviewing the decision and considering its options. On to the 8-member SCOTUS! (A tie there would uphold 9th circuit)

Also, this tweet came way too naturally to him:

SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/829836231802515457

 

[KG1]

Judiciary trumps Exec.

 

[amboy49]

Judiciary trumps Exec.

Not quite accurate (?). Thought it was checks and balances.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

That particular circuit has an 86% overturn rate.

I don't expect today's ruling to last long.

 

[T.Lex]

This was always destined for SCOTUS, which is just as well... sorta. I'd almost defer this decision - leave it in place - and litigate the actual merits quickly. The risk of a 4-4 tie would almost be worse than just leaving it in place.

For me, the issue comes back to his lack of respect. Are these all so-called judges now?

And yes, the 9th is a terrible circuit for conservativism. They do get things right every once in awhile, sometimes even on purpose.

 

[SEIndSAM]

I wonder if Trump has something up his sleeve. Something like banning ALL immigration for 90 days since they won't stay this case... If he bans all immigration, they can't use the religious discrimination angle.

 

[KG1]

This was always destined for SCOTUS, which is just as well... sorta. I'd almost defer this decision - leave it in place - and litigate the actual merits quickly. The risk of a 4-4 tie would almost be worse than just leaving it in place.

For me, the issue comes back to his lack of respect. Are these all so-called judges now?

And yes, the 9th is a terrible circuit for conservativism. They do get things right every once in awhile, sometimes even on purpose.

So this was a "you will respect us" decision?

 

[Tombs]

I wonder if Trump has something up his sleeve. Something like banning ALL immigration for 90 days since they won't stay this case... If he bans all immigration, they can't use the religious discrimination angle.

As far as I understand it, the reason the stay was upheld was that there was insufficient evidence to show that allowing people in will cause harm to the country. To have overturned it would have required actual evidence that harm would come to the country should we allow people in.

 

[Trigger Time]

I think the President should sign a new executive order that is more specific and basicly does the same thing or even more.
So how can these liberal and not impartial judges be removed?

 

[Trigger Time]

As far as I understand it, the reason the stay was upheld was that there was insufficient evidence to show that allowing people in will cause harm to the country. To have overturned it would have required actual evidence that harm would come to the country should we allow people in.

If someone comes in and attacks us due to these judges the. I hope the govt sends them to a CIA camp in a far away land.

 

[SEIndSAM]

If someone comes in and attacks us due to these judges the. I hope the govt sends them to a CIA camp in a far away land.

Gitmo works for me....

 

[Tombs]

I think the President should sign a new executive order that is more specific and basicly does the same thing or even more.
So how can these liberal and not impartial judges be removed?

You don't remove them.

You hire some of the best legal minds in the country and brainstorm a way to humiliate them, by baiting them to overturn things they either lack the authority to, or will draw public ire for doing.

...not that I'd advise something like that