The news has finally caught on to the heroin problem in Bloomington

[Denny347]

It's a false comparison. Is Narcan really free? If Narcan is administered, the patient will typically be required to be transported to the hospital. They incur the bill like any other.

 

[eldirector]

It's a false comparison. Is Narcan really free? If Narcan is administered, the patient will typically be required to be transported to the hospital. They incur the bill like any other.

And they pay it?

I did a bit of research in IMPD's Narcan source. Looks to be from a non-profit grant administered by Overdose Lifeline. No tax money, but is funded by settlements with pharmaceutical companies for off-label and deceptive marketing.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

I have a tremendous respect for our elected officials. They enter their careers at statehouses and in DC, they work half the year, do little to nothing, get filthy stinking rich, then ditch that job and get an even better paying one lobbying, and during all of that, they still manage to convince large numbers of Americans that some other bunch of people are the useless drains on society.

 

[Denny347]

And they pay it?

I did a bit of research in IMPD's Narcan source. Looks to be from a non-profit grant administered by Overdose Lifeline. No tax money, but is funded by settlements with pharmaceutical companies for off-label and deceptive marketing.

That's a different topic all together.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I have a tremendous respect for our elected officials. They enter their careers at statehouses and in DC, they work half the year, do little to nothing, get filthy stinking rich, then ditch that job and get an even better paying one lobbying, and during all of that, they still manage to convince large numbers of Americans that some other bunch of people are the useless drains on society.

Very true. A cockroach wearing a necktie is still a cockroach.

 

[hoosierdoc]

It's a false comparison. Is Narcan really free? If Narcan is administered, the patient will typically be required to be transported to the hospital. They incur the bill like any other.

exactly, it's a nice FB post though that gets shared all the time. And why is insulin not free. And why is college not free, etc.

Pennsylvania Mom Charged After Overdosing on Heroin While Pregnant - NBC News

This is a sad story for the child but nice to see that pregnant women can be charged with injuring their unborn child via drugs.

 

[longbow]

This will fade again from the news.

In other new in the area. They have found massive Burmese pythons in the area and everyone is now in a panic.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

This will fade again from the news.

In other new in the area. They have found massive Burmese pythons in the area and everyone is now in a panic.

Bloomington has gone from being a decent time on a friday night to being the setting of endless horror stories.

 

[ghitch75]

Bloomington has fell into the toilet and with I69 south has brought the toilet south to us......sheriff and co's removed a bum from under our bridge.......he said he had a right to stay under the bridge because it was state owned....

 

[femurphy77]

Bloomington has fell into the toilet and with I69 south has brought the toilet south to us......sheriff and co's removed a bum from under our bridge.......he said he had a right to stay under the bridge because it was state owned....

Damn! That was my retirement plan except I had my eyes on a nice bridge in south Florida! I'd rather starve to death under a bridge in Florida than freeze to death under a bridge in Indiana!

 

[public servant]

Are you referring to Medicaid charges? Because if they are uninsured it's not your taxes, it's the docs and hospitals that eat the loss.

Who then pass that loss onto me in the form of higher medical costs. And insurance providers who pass the loss along to me in the form of $6K-$8K deductibles and inflated premiums.

I am so damn tired of footing the bill for people that don't give a **** about themselves enough to put down the syringe. When is enough, enough?

Why they hell should I be forced to pay $6-8K out of my pocket while we continue to provide free services for those that refuse to help themselves?

 

[GregD]

Who then pass that loss onto me in the form of higher medical costs. And insurance providers who pass the loss along to me in the form of $6K-$8K deductibles.

I am so damn tired of footing the bill for people that don't give a **** about themselves enough to put down the syringe. When is enough, enough?

Why they hell should I be forced to pay $6-8K out of my pocket while we continue to provide free services for those that refuse to help themselves?

That is very well said ! !

 

[public servant]

My wife is an insulin dependent diabetic. Very few types of insulin work for her. The ones that work best are very expensive. To the tune of around 1K/month until her insurance deductibles are met. Who do you think foots the bill for her medication?

But no, let's keep throwing free life-saving medication at people that don't give a damn about themselves enough to do something about it. At some point in time my pockets run dry.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

But no, let's keep throwing free life-saving medication at people that don't give a damn about themselves enough to do something about it. At some point in time my pockets run dry.

That's the wrong attitude Mr ! Apparently we should rejoice in jacked to fund everyone else's fun . Damned Hillians ! Speaking of the Hill , you aware there's supposedly a crap ton of drug / flop houses around ?

 

[public servant]

That's the wrong attitude Mr ! Apparently we should rejoice in jacked to fund everyone else's fun . Damned Hillians ! Speaking of the Hill , you aware there's supposedly a crap ton of drug / flop houses around ?

Drugs in The Hill??? That's why the stoned dumb SOB's keep getting smoked on Kentucky Av.

I know it's a **** poor attitude but it's mine and I'm keeping it. I'm tired of being bled dry. Someone will say, ""If it was your loved one...". Well, I'd have a decision to make. Either foot the bill for my loved one's poor decisions out of my pocket or walk away.

I understand, I really do. But I'm tired of failed practices that don't work. And continuing to sacrifice while others bleed me dry.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The responses here are very "unChristian-like".

Bear in mind, that even God will give you over to your own desires, if that's where your prefer to be. (But He does leave an escape route ).

If we were to use some of the same logic that those that support abortion use, why would we insist on forcing people to live in an existence where so many drug addicts find themselves. Isn't that just cruel? Wouldn't we be doing them a favor by letting them OD themselves to death?

I know the logic that priest that interceded with your relative was that as long as he was alive, there was a chance that he might repent and follow Jesus. I get that. The older I get, the more I find myself trying to follow in Jesus' example, the more I value that and the more it grieves me when people choose those self destructive paths.

If I were in your shoes and I had the ability to save someone's life in my car, you bet I'd try...no matter how many times they've tried to OD.

 

[Denny347]

Who then pass that loss onto me in the form of higher medical costs. And insurance providers who pass the loss along to me in the form of $6K-$8K deductibles and inflated premiums.

I am so damn tired of footing the bill for people that don't give a **** about themselves enough to put down the syringe. When is enough, enough?

Why they hell should I be forced to pay $6-8K out of my pocket while we continue to provide free services for those that refuse to help themselves?

While I understand where you are coming from, it is a bit more complicated than that.

http://www.nahu.org/legislative/policydocuments/NAHUWhitePaperCost.pdf

 

[Denny347]

If I were in your shoes and I had the ability to save someone's life in my car, you bet I'd try...no matter how many times they've tried to OD.

Thank you.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Denny, don't get discouraged at a time like this. While I am pretty well set in my belief that protecting the stupid from themselves is a fool's errand predestined to failure, you are an intelligent and thoughtful person, and you are bringing good points to the table. I will add to that you are among a relatively small group responsible for persuading me to rethink my position on law enforcement which was no small accomplishment, especially given some of my really bad past experiences. You are a good man and a good officer, and it shows.

 

[wabash]

was this epic picture from his audition for Most Interesting Man in the World?