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  • Route 45

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    I've never shot in competition, but I have trained quite a bit with running and gunning on steel plates. One thing I learned long ago is that I absolutely do not like pistols with short "2 finger" grips. Especially the single stacks that use a magazine with a grip sleeve to make a full grip. Mag changes under stress are a pain in the butt, and I much prefer a full grip on my defensive pistol for enhanced control under stress.

    I generally EDC a P365, but the stubby stock grip module is in a drawer somewhere and will never see carry duty. I've got the XL grip module on both of my P365s for a full grip. Not that mag changes are terribly common in civilian defensive encounters, but it doesn't hurt to optimize where you can.
     

    downrange72

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    Not sure how much I can agree with that instructor. It always makes me scratch my head when people use a fancy gun that's very different from their EDC, as well as a competition style holster, mag holders and belt that are different from what they normally use. I would think that if you're constantly practicing with your "race gear", that's what you'll be used to, not your EDC equipment. I'm sure a lot of the skills transfer over, but certainly not all. I agree with BT that using your EDC equipment is a good idea at least some of the time when you're doing shooting sport matches. Might just be me, but it seems like common sense... :dunno:

    I'm with you here. I have my carry guns and competition guns. Every defensive pistol class I go to, I run my carry gun(s).

    If i shoot a carry gun match at Parabellum or when coach had them at Riley, i use my carry gun.

    Practice, both (carry and competition) get about the same amount of rounds down range

    Uspsa, carry guns get a break most of the time :)
     

    gregkl

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    I'm with you here. I have my carry guns and competition guns. Every defensive pistol class I go to, I run my carry gun(s).

    If i shoot a carry gun match at Parabellum or when coach had them at Riley, i use my carry gun.

    Practice, both (carry and competition) get about the same amount of rounds down range

    Uspsa, carry guns get a break most of the time :)

    I took a class this spring and the instructor (who doesn't game/compete as far as I know) shoots 1 for 1 of his full size pistol and his compact so that no matter which one he is carrying, he has the same familiarity with both.

    Something I am working on doing.
     

    downrange72

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    I took a class this spring and the instructor (who doesn't game/compete as far as I know) shoots 1 for 1 of his full size pistol and his compact so that no matter which one he is carrying, he has the same familiarity with both.

    Something I am working on doing.

    Yep. I try to shoot my 4.25 and 3.6 MP regularly

    At times, I shoot one better than the other.

    My 4.25 was having extraction issues but I think that has been remedied with upgraded extractor (actually both got the upgrade)
     

    dereedy

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    This is a good post. Thanks. I've been away from regular shooting for most of the last 12 years or so (mostly serving places where I didn't have much access to a personal weapon). I need to get reconnected to skills and practice with my new everyday carry pistol to get the kind of experience you describe.
     

    natdscott

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    Not sure how much I can agree with that instructor. It always makes me scratch my head when people use a fancy gun that's very different from their EDC, as well as a competition style holster, mag holders and belt that are different from what they normally use. I would think that if you're constantly practicing with your "race gear", that's what you'll be used to, not your EDC equipment. I'm sure a lot of the skills transfer over, but certainly not all. I agree with BT that using your EDC equipment is a good idea at least some of the time when you're doing shooting sport matches. Might just be me, but it seems like common sense... :dunno:

    Well rounded competitive shooters generally have no real issue making good hits with weapons other than their “race” day gun(s). It’s a lot more issue in their HEAD than it is in practice...if anything. And TRUST me, it is hard to get this through competitors heads as well; e.g.: you can train hard with a match air pistol and it will not cripple your ability with your Springfield.

    Frankly, it’s Bull Hockey.

    Am I saying it is a good idea to completely change operating systems from carry to race? Well, no. Racing a double stack 1911-style and then strapping on a Beretta 92 for the drive home seems like a bad idea.

    I withhold any of my ignorant comments about holsters, belts, mags, mag holders.
     

    Route 45

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    This situation is simplified if you only own one model of pistol. You can shoot, compete with, and carry the same gun. :)

    Own. One. Model. Of. Pistol.

    I know each of those words individually, but have never seen them arranged in a sentence like that.

    :):
     

    foszoe

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    I haven't done much. But I did listen to Coach at lessons.

    Shooting with your everyday carry pistol may not win you matches but it could save your life.

    I like to have the same family of pistols.

    92F full size, compact was awhile back.

    PX4 Sub, com, full size. current.
     
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