Speed cameras coming to Indiana

[gorge]

Who's speedometer is accurate +/- 3 mph?

I foresee a lot of speed cameras getting vandalized.

That never happens...

Everybody Loves (To Destroy) Ticket Cameras - National Motorists Association

Ticket camera corporations like to put out press releases and pay for biased surveys that show that ticket cameras are well-liked by the general public. The reality is that this is far from the truth. This is borne out by the fact that no ticket camera program has ever survived a public vote...

ww2.motorists.org

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Who's speedometer is accurate +/- 3 mph?

I foresee a lot of speed cameras getting vandalized.

Our best hope is enough politically connected people get zapped enough times they put pressure on getting them yanked out.

 

[actaeon277]

Now Chicago wants "noise cameras".
They already have been shown NOT maintaining their red light cameras, collecting fees because citizens don't want to fight city hall, and when the citizens do fight, only that citizen gets reimbursed.
Just puts $$ in the contractors hands.

Fed up downtown residents push for camera tickets for loud mufflers in proposed ordinance

A group of downtown Chicago residents are working with their alderman to pass an ordinance targeting cars with intentionally loud mufflers.

abc7chicago.com

 

[manifest destiny]

Cameras. The future of policing (profiteering). Why pay a copper to write a ticket (for anything) when a camera can do it. Constantly. All day. All night. Hundreds by the hour. On every corner. In any weather. For safety, of course. No way they do it for the money.

 

[Cameramonkey]

If no workers are in the construction zone, how can it be a construction zone?

No doubt. I had a cop pulled me over in a “construction zone“ and threaten to use the construction fines. The gotcha is that it was in name only. All construction was done. The only thing left to do was for the company to come and pick up the signs and barrels. There wasn’t even idle machinery laying around.

 

[semperfi211]

So two bikes riding side by side, one has loud pipes one is stock. Do they both get tickets?

 

[actaeon277]

So two bikes riding side by side, one has loud pipes one is stock. Do they both get tickets?

Probably

 

[Sylvain]

You can beat speed cameras by going really fast apparently.
We just had a case in France of a driver caught doing 275km/h (170mph) on the highway (wasn't me).
That's quite fast.
At that speed you are supposed to lose your driver license for 3 years, pay a huge fine and possibly get some jail time.
His lawyer found out that the radar used was only certified for speeds up to 155mph.
So the court ruled that he couldn't get charged for speeding.
Some new generation speed cameras are certified up to 300km/h (186mph).

So if you see cops with a radar gun you need to speed up.
Some hand held radar guns can only measure speeds up to 210mph.

 

[cg21]

Who is gonna get rich making the “camera blocker” license plate cover I know there are some already but seem to be gimmicky at this point

 

[actaeon277]

You can beat speed cameras by going really fast apparently.
We just had a case in France of a driver caught doing 275km/h (170mph) on the highway (wasn't me).
That's quite fast.
At that speed you are supposed to lose your driver license for 3 years, pay a huge fine and possibly get some jail time.
His lawyer found out that the radar used was only certified for speeds up to 155mph.
So the court ruled that he couldn't get charged for speeding.
Some new generation speed cameras are certified up to 300km/h (186mph).

So if you see cops with a radar gun you need to speed up.
Some hand held radar guns can only measure speeds up to 210mph.

Which is REALLY stupid.

Who cares if we can't get it exact, as long as we're sure you're OVER.


Too many judges all over seem to be idiots.

 

[blain]

So if you see cops with a radar gun you need to speed up.
Some hand held radar guns can only measure speeds up to 210mph.

I think I'll just slow down.

 

[INP8riot]

They had these in AZ. If you didn't pay them, someone had to physically hand you a citation/summons to "face an accuser". They eventually did away with them because people were slamming on the brakes where the cameras were and causing major wrecks. Also, no one answers their doors in AZ.

 

[ljk]

Speeding cameras are 100% scam.

They work the same way as the toll roads.

The local politicians (government) got paid a fixed fee, guaranteed, for leasing out the roads where these cameras would be installed.
The cameras are owned by the processing company, they pocket the ticket money.

These cameras are not there to help enforce the traffic law or save lives. They are there to make as much money as possible, unlimited amount.

The same way the parking meters in Chicago, all the parking fee goes to Dubai, not Chicago because the previous admin already sold them out years ago.

 

[Shadow01]

I have a picture somewhere showing the actual normal speed limit at 40 mph and they placed construction speed limit signs up for a new construction project at 45 mph. Which is the legal limit?

 

[indyblue]

I have a picture somewhere showing the actual normal speed limit at 40 mph and they placed construction speed limit signs up for a new construction project at 45 mph. Which is the legal limit?

Good question,

That is a conundrum. I'd say the sign was in error and you should follow the stated rule. The drivers manual only states this:

Reduced Speed Limits in Highway Work Zones
Work site speed limits are always at least 10 miles per hour below the maximum established
speed limit for the area. Drivers must adhere to the posted speed limit in a work site. Some
work site speed limits are in effect only when flashing and others are in effect at all times

But the manual says:

SPEED LIMITS
Indiana law requires drivers to operate vehicles at the posted speed limit.

So, now what is considered POSTED?

 

[Basher]

How to deal w/ speed cameras:

 

[Shadow01]

Good question,

That is a conundrum. I'd say the sign was in error and you should follow the stated rule. The drivers manual only states this:

But the manual says:

So, now what is considered POSTED?

And my picture shows what is in red is a printed falsehood from BMV. Let me find it.

 

[gassprint1]

There is case law stating camera tickets are unconstitutional because of not being able to face a physical accuser.

 

[Ingomike]

There is case law stating camera tickets are unconstitutional because of not being able to face a physical accuser.

Their work around was to make it some kind of administrative fine, not a misdemeanor that had points in some places…

 

[gassprint1]

Their work around was to make it some kind of administrative fine, not a misdemeanor that had points in some places…

Speeding tickets are civil or a judge would also call it administrative. It has never been a misdemeanor by itself.