Secession: an academic discussion

[BigRed]

lincoln is like the abusive husband who found out his wife was going to walk away, then killed her and claimed he saved the marriage.

 

[Magyars]

I'm not sure why the prospect of a lot of people killing each other would be pleasant to anyone.

Where does my meme mention killing people?
You have an odd interpretation of things don't you?

 

[jamil]

I cannot speak for others...I only know what I am talking about.

That makes one of us.

 

[jamil]

Where does my meme mention killing people?
You have an odd interpretation of things don't you?

C'mon. There's only one way this ends, and we can't talk about it on the internet? It sure ain't ****ing. We can talk about that on the internet.

 

[jamil]

lincoln is like the abusive husband who found out his wife was going to walk away, then killed her and claimed he saved the marriage.

 

[BigRed]

Lincoln’s 2nd Inaugural – Abbeville Institute

www.abbevilleinstitute.org

An interesting article on lincoln's second inaugural address and politicians of today.

 

[cbhausen]

Fox News is running a story about current secession movements:

Secession movements gain traction in US amid deepening political rifts: 'A long-standing problem'





https://www.foxnews.com/us/secessio...epening-political-rifts-long-standing-problem

 

[1DOWN4UP]

How many states have a " out " in their constitutions? I know Texas is proud of theirs.

 

[jwamplerusa]

How many states have a " out " in their constitutions? I know Texas is proud of theirs.

What does Texas "out" look like?

 

[1DOWN4UP]

It looks like they left a secession clause in their state constitution when they joined the Union.

 

[BigRed]

How many states have a " out " in their constitutions? I know Texas is proud of theirs.

Each and every one.

 

[BigRed]

Secession is LONG past due.

 

[BugI02]

Secession is LONG past due.

Perhaps you should study the concept of Balkanization. I do not share your belief that breaking up the United States will work out wonderfully without fail

And then you may like the next Lincoln even less than you liked the original

 

[BigRed]

Perhaps you should study the concept of Balkanization. I do not share your belief that breaking up the United States will work out wonderfully without fail

And then you may like the next Lincoln even less than you liked the original

Balkanization has already taken hold.

Further, I have never suggested that dissolution of the central state would lead to some ****ing utopia.

Frankly, I do not give a flying damn about the last lincoln or the next one.

 

[BugI02]

“You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you” - Leon Trotsky

 

[KLB]

Each and every one.

Could you point to where it is in ours?

 

[BigRed]

Could you point to where it is in ours?

Each and every state has the retained power as outlined in the 10th.

 

[Hawkeye]

Each and every state has the retained power as outlined in the 10th.

How does that mean they can secede? Not sure the SCt agrees with you.

 

[BigRed]

How does that mean they can secede? Not sure the SCt agrees with you.

The SC doesn't agree? Color me shocked!!!

The central state is nothing but a fox guarding a hen house.

 

[Hawkeye]

The SC doesn't agree? Color me shocked!!!

The central state is nothing but a fox guarding a hen house.

OK... So tell us how the 10th Amendment gives States the right to secede. Especially interested in how they can do that if none of the "authorities" support that view.

I know you wnat States to be able to secede, but I just don't think there is any reasonable support for that. But I'm open to hear why you think that.