Point One: INGO has long had a rule against the discussion of the use of violence against the United States, or any of the governments thereof. This thread WILL NOT violate that rule.
The topic of secession from the United States has come up at various times. Californians were reportedly considering it during Trump's administration. Some of the Red states have considered it in the wake of the election results, as reported. The one time it has been done, it was done at the cost of a bloody war, and none of us wants to go that route.
I would like to consider, in an academic form, the various pros and cons of a state or group of states leaving the Union by peaceful means-- say, for example, by treaty. Could a state or group of states that found the current political climate untenable, offer a treaty to the US Gov't, separating on amicable and polite terms? What would the logistics of such an action be?
Of note: The definition of the term "treason" consists of making war against the United States, or giving aid and comfort to her enemies. I am specifically and categorically proposing hypothetical action that would do neither of these, perhaps even entering into diplomatic relations with the country that remained.
Think of it as two houses in the same neighborhood. Neither can tell the other what is allowed or disallowed within the home (even with a homeowners' association), but the two households can go to the neighborhood picnic and sit together peaceably. They can even trade potato salad recipes (yes, of course, with bacon.)
I am interested in what people think, logistically, morally, pragmatically. I am interested in opinions. I want to spark discussion, but again, not of any topic that would remotely approach violence of one toward another.
Blessings,
Bill
The topic of secession from the United States has come up at various times. Californians were reportedly considering it during Trump's administration. Some of the Red states have considered it in the wake of the election results, as reported. The one time it has been done, it was done at the cost of a bloody war, and none of us wants to go that route.
I would like to consider, in an academic form, the various pros and cons of a state or group of states leaving the Union by peaceful means-- say, for example, by treaty. Could a state or group of states that found the current political climate untenable, offer a treaty to the US Gov't, separating on amicable and polite terms? What would the logistics of such an action be?
Of note: The definition of the term "treason" consists of making war against the United States, or giving aid and comfort to her enemies. I am specifically and categorically proposing hypothetical action that would do neither of these, perhaps even entering into diplomatic relations with the country that remained.
Think of it as two houses in the same neighborhood. Neither can tell the other what is allowed or disallowed within the home (even with a homeowners' association), but the two households can go to the neighborhood picnic and sit together peaceably. They can even trade potato salad recipes (yes, of course, with bacon.)
I am interested in what people think, logistically, morally, pragmatically. I am interested in opinions. I want to spark discussion, but again, not of any topic that would remotely approach violence of one toward another.
Blessings,
Bill
