SB 433 Short barrel shotgun passes House

[M67]

My question is why? What is so desirable about such a short shotgun? Why so popular?
I don't see the point. My 18" 887 is inaccurate enough already.

Merica, that's why

 

[OneBadV8]

Merica, that's why

 

[Huntinfool]

Is he apt to sign? I think so, just haven't kept up on this much. But my interest is growing.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Is he apt to sign?

Yes, but it does not matter. It becomes law if he does not sign. (Gov. Pence can veto).

There is no pocket veto in Indiana. It becomes law if he does not sign it. Article V, §14 of the Indiana Constitution (if you want to read about the potential process yourself).

Here's Article V: http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/inconst/art-5.html

I need to do an Indiana government thread.

 

[SteveM4A1]

Yes, but it does not matter. It becomes law if he does not sign. (Gov. Pence can veto).

There is no pocket veto in Indiana. It becomes law if he does not sign it. Article V, §14 of the Indiana Constitution (if you want to read about the potential process yourself).

Here's Article V: Indiana Constitution - Article 5

I need to do an Indiana government thread.

How long have you been saying this? The time is now.

 

[Huntinfool]

Thanks Kirk.

I guess that makes my next question - has Gov. Pence stated any intentions to veto?

 

[gglass]

There is nothing remotely controversial about this law. It merely aligns Indiana law to the long standing Federal law, which should make one think that he should have no problem signing the Bill into law. It also passed both the House and Senate with such overwhelming bi-partisan support that it would not make sense for Pence to stand alone with a veto.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Thanks Kirk.

I guess that makes my next question - has Gov. Pence stated any intentions to veto?

No, not at all.

Things to do while we wait the 8 days:

1. Send a letter to your rep thanking him or her for his vote (if applicable)

2. E-mail the Gov. urging him to sign

3. Google up info on short barreled shotguns that you will be ordering in July.

 

[brotherbill3]

No, not at all.

Things to do while we wait the 8 days:

1. Send a letter to your rep thanking him or her for his vote (if applicable)

2. E-mail the Gov. urging him to sign

3. Google up info on short barreled shotguns that you will be ordering in July.

4. Start learning NFA paperwork and timelines so you can get (possession of) the SBS ... sometime ... when?

LOL. (I don't NFA, much, at all)

 

[Huntinfool]

No, not at all.

Things to do while we wait the 8 days:

1. Send a letter to your rep thanking him or her for his vote (if applicable)

2. E-mail the Gov. urging him to sign

3. Google up info on short barreled shotguns that you will be ordering in July.

Well it won't be the first law ( or newly regained rights ) that has cost me $$

 

[BogWalker]

Sawn-off.... doing it right or wrong?

 

[Fergy35]

View attachment 37151 Sawn-off.... doing it right or wrong?

Yep, that looks about right.

 

[1775usmarine]

View attachment 37151 Sawn-off.... doing it right or wrong?

I would like to see this in action

 

[KG1]

View attachment 37151 Sawn-off.... doing it right or wrong?

Wonder how it patterns?

 

[gglass]

Although this bill passed in both houses, I do not recall seeing that the governor signed it. Did I miss something or is it still on the gov's desk?

 

[Bill of Rights]

Although this bill passed in both houses, I do not recall seeing that the governor signed it. Did I miss something or is it still on the gov's desk?

Most recent action shows it returning to the Senate without amendment. President (pro tem? not sure) of the Senate has to sign it, Speaker of the House has to sign it, then it goes to Pence for his signature. He has a short period of time (7 days or so, IIRC) to sign it or not. If he does not actively veto it, it becomes law.

Someone else can give you the exact number of days, I don't recall it and am too lazy at the moment to look it up.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[engineerpower]

Indiana Constitution says it becomes law 8 days after it is presented to the Governor. If it went to his desk the day after the House passed it (24 March), Thursday 2 April would have been the 8th day. Do we know when it hit his desk?

Article 5, Section 14(A)(3): He may refuse to sign or veto such bill in which event it shall become a law without his signature on the eighth day after presentment to the Governor.

 

[BigMoose]

Now I am wondering if it might be better to introduce future gun legislation into the Senate first. That way it comes to that Dermody RINO with momentum behind it.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Now I am wondering if it might be better to introduce future gun legislation into the Senate first. That way it comes to that Dermody RINO with momentum behind it.

I'm pretty unhappy with the way Mr. Lucas' bills were snubbed this year, too, but in fairness, Dermody has two choices: He can kill the bills in his committee, or he can pass them, have Bosma kill them, and also refuse to appoint him to his committee next year. As far as the bills are concerned, the result is the same, but the way he did it this year keeps a pro-gun guy in charge of that committee. Want to effect a real change? Put a real "gun guy" in Bosma's seat as Speaker, and while we're at it, in Long's place in the Senate, too.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Beowulf]

Anyone know anyone in the Indy area that could do good wood work on cutting down and refinishing a stock? I have a Stoeger double barrel is that is begging for the Mad Max treatment when this gets signed into law.