Russia vs. Ukraine Part 2

[BigMoose]

Well in other news. The war has taken a decided turn against Russia.

On Naval terms alone, The Russian Navy is in complete retreat on the Black Sea, attempting to hide in Seperatist parts of Georgia from the missile onslaught.
(On naval terms alone, this will be a LONG LONG studied conflict, how to defeat a Navy.. without having one. Us needs to be taking notes and making textbooks for Ensigns up to Admirals)

Russia plans naval base in Abkhazia, triggering criticism from Georgia

Russia has signed a deal for a permanent naval base on the Black Sea coast of the breakaway Georgian region of Abkhazia, the Izvestiya newspaper reported, prompting criticism from Georgia which said the move was a "gross violation" of its sovereignty.

www.reuters.com

On the ground.. Its bad for Russia too.

With Russia distracted, Ukraine managed to coble together a amphibious river assault force to drive into the rest of Kherson.

With Raids Across Dnipro River, Ukraine May Be Seeking New Front in War

Military experts are reporting extensive strikes on Russian-held territory in the south, potentially with the goal of establishing a bridgehead on the east bank of the Dnipro.

www.nytimes.com

Elsewhere, The Ukranian's continue to push forward.. and so do the Russians, who continue to be defeated in these pointless assaults.

Russia launched its biggest attack in months. Huge tank losses show it isn't learning from its many defeats, expert says

Events in Avdiivka show Russia still struggles with the style of war needed to capture territory in Ukraine, a prominent analyst told Insider.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Leadeye]

How long before we are back to battleships, they should be fairly drone resistant.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

How long before we are back to battleships, they should be fairly drone resistant.

Just recently watched a new video by the operations room on the battle of Leyte Gulf. The sinking of the Musashi is quite incredible to hear recounted. That ship could sure take a beating.

 

[Leadeye]

I remember Act saying that they would use a mop to clean up an Exocet hit on a battleship. Those things tore up UK ships during the Falklands war, but clearly have their limitations.

No idea how far inland 16" shells can go.

 

[BugI02]

I remember Act saying that they would use a mop to clean up an Exocet hit on a battleship. Those things tore up UK ships during the Falklands war, but clearly have their limitations.

No idea how far inland 16" shells can go.

2200lb shell can be sent about 20 miles downrange. Range is limited by a turret limitation of only about 30 degrees elevation, max range would be closer to 45 degrees

 

[Michigan Slim]

The USS Texas flooded the torpedo blisters on the seaward side to gain elevation on its guns during the Normandy invasion.

 

[BugI02]

That's American ingenuity at work, but I wonder if it affected accuracy of targeting

 

[Hawkeye]

That's American ingenuity at work, but I wonder if it affected accuracy of targeting

It could, although accuracy usually decreases at extreme range anyway.

 

[BigMoose]

Some youtubers rented sat time to count Russian tanks in storage depots.

Russia has stuff back to the 54/55 stored.

 

[Route 45]

Sign this gal up for INGO.

 

[BugI02]

Sign this gal up for INGO.

Why, did she say something later that mindlessly boosted the fiction that Ukraine is somehow America's responsibility or how their brave freedom fighters would win the war with Moscow if we just give them enough money and materiel with no oversight or strings attached? Did she mention how all of those Swedish man-portable anti-tank rockets got from Ukraine to Hamas?

Did she say we'll get Mexico to pay for the wall get Russia to pay for the rebuilding of Ukraine?

The Treaty of Versailles called, they want their post war plan back

 

[JCSR]

Is this the beginning of the end?

 

[smokingman]

Is this the beginning of the end?

Time Magazine's Stunning Reversal: Zelensky 'Deludes' Himself Into Thinking Ukraine Can Win | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

The narrative started to change awhile back as the counteroffensive fizzled. With Russia taking more ground than they had lost. That and well,we are broke. Even over in the EU multiple countries have stopped exporting arms(even ones that had).

Ukraine does not have enough men left to win. Your article says the average enlisted age is 43,but I read on Spiegel it was 45. Meh,point being they are not able to field enough fit fighters.

It was never possible for Ukraine to win without direct input of outside troops,which the west could not stomach. It has been obvious for a long time.

 

[JCSR]

Time Magazine's Stunning Reversal: Zelensky 'Deludes' Himself Into Thinking Ukraine Can Win | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

The narrative started to change awhile back as the counteroffensive fizzled. With Russia taking more ground than they had lost. That and well,we are broke. Even over in the EU multiple countries have stopped exporting arms(even ones that had).

Ukraine does not have enough men left to win. Your article says the average enlisted age is 43,but I read on Spiegel it was 45. Meh,point being they are not able to field enough fit fighters.

It was never possible for Ukraine to win without direct input of outside troops,which the west could not stomach. It has been obvious for a long time.

I think when all hope is lost Zelensky and his chosen few will bail with the sacks of U.S. dollars they skimmed. Biden will assist in doing so.

 

[DadSmith]

I think when all hope is lost Zelensky and his chosen few will bail with the sacks of U.S. dollars they skimmed. Biden will assist in doing so.

Or he'll make a deal with Putin to remain in power while turning Ukraine into a Russian puppet, and keep the stacks of money for himself.

 

[SEIndSAM]

 

[smokingman]

MSN

www.msn.com

It reopened in 50 minutes. MSN had an article about how fast they repaired it(still shows up in searches(image attatched),but since I posted it, the story has vanished.

 

[BugI02]

Zelensky: TIME may be on his side, but real time, isn't

Official Ukraine narrative collapses as Zelensky’s inner circle admits to magazine that the war cannot be won militarily.

responsiblestatecraft.org

Facts at odds with these narratives — such as that Ukraine has been taking unsustainable losses in combat, that we don’t have enough artillery shells to adequately supply them, that the billions we’ve been sending to Ukraine are falling prey to corruption — have been dismissed as “Putin talking points.” The critics who point them out are attacked as Kremlin apologists

Remind you of anyone you knoze?

 

[KellyinAvon]

Zelensky: TIME may be on his side, but real time, isn't

Official Ukraine narrative collapses as Zelensky’s inner circle admits to magazine that the war cannot be won militarily.

responsiblestatecraft.org

Remind you of anyone you knoze?

Does sound vaguely familiar...

 

[Kdf101]

I’m not a fan of Russia at all, they are bad guys, but Ukraine ain’t the good guys either. They have been known for a long time as a super corrupt country. I have never been a fan of the free aid to them. If anybody should be aiding them, it is Europe. It is literally in their back yard. Time for that huge collection of free loaders to own up to defending their own neighborhood