POLL: Should Profire Resume Parking Trailers Full of NFA Overnight in the Alley?

[churchmouse]

___..._____ it, _______ idiots left out the bacon option.

 

[iChokePeople]

Why does it seem that every time I post in a thread, it goes off the rails? I guess everyone has to have a skill.

 

[churchmouse]

Why does it seem that every time I post in a thread, it goes off the rails? I guess everyone has to have a skill.

Voodoo..............seriously.

So it was you that sent "Bragging Rights" off the rails. Epic work....Epic.

 

[IndyGunworks]

___..._____ it, _______ idiots left out the bacon option.

I see what you did there.

 

[Classic Liberal]

Fargo...what are you going to do besides jab Profire about this?

Seems to me that you are quite passionate about this security thing.

You should start a blog and offer free training to firearm store owners on how to properly store firearms so they won't get stolen. I'm sure us private owners could learn a thing or two from you as well.

 

[hooky]

Your poll is moot. BATFE will ultimately decide if Profire will continue storing things in the manner in which they've been stored in the past. Go lobby them instead of us.

 

[Que]

Sez the guy who publicly advocated for laying machineguns out on the lawn unattended? What a beautiful picture of gunowners to put out.

Yeah, cause the police have no clout with the legislature. Lets make sure we **** on them by leaving machineguns out for crooks to steal, so that they can then go try to recover a SAW from a criminal. The police have a legitimate beef here, we expect them to deal with the mess made by machineguns in criminal hands. Soft armor be damned.

If I was on IMPD out looking for these folks in my IIiA vest, I would be unbelievably ****ty with whoever left them out.

I know probably around 6 civie machingun owners.

Good try, but you still didn't explain how this makes ME look bad or how this does anything to limit our rights. The only thing you have done is post about your fears. Besides, I have not read where the police have a "beef" about this. Those whom I've communicated with have a different take on the situation. They actually blame the people who stole the trailer. Hmmmm... imagine that!

 

[Walt G]

I'm sure Andrew has beat him self up enough over this and I bet he never leaves a trailer full of firearms and ammo setting out again. If he dose then the flogging should begain.

 

[10ring]

Yeah, and this "poll question" illustrates why polls anymore are total nonsense.

For instance...

Should we starve women and infants who cannot feed themselves?

or

Should we end welfare and demand able bodied people support themselves and their families?

or maybe...

Should Fargo the troll get off his high horse about Profire and the security of their trailer?

or

Should Fargo the security expert school us all on how we should store our firearms?

 

[DRob]

Let what go? I honestly want to know if a substantial number of members here actually feel this way.

There has never been a "substantial number of members here" weigh in on anything. For all the hoopla about how many registered members INGO has, a small minority make all the noise! I see many of the polls as being posted by somebody simply attempting to validate their own opinion.

 

[churchmouse]

There has never been a "substantial number of members here" weigh in on anything. For all the hoopla about how many registered members INGO has, a small minority make all the noise! I see many of the polls as being posted by somebody simply attempting to validate their own opinion.

There might possibly be 50 to 100 regular posting members in here. And yes, the regular crowd shuffles in.

Polls are for the reason you mention....getting opinions to prove/disprove a point.

 

[BiscuitNaBasket]

Yeah, and this "poll question" illustrates why polls anymore are total nonsense.

For instance...

Should we starve women and infants who cannot feed themselves?

or

Should we end welfare and demand able bodied people support themselves and their families?

or maybe...

Should Fargo the troll get off his high horse about Profire and the security of their trailer?

or

Should Fargo the security expert school us all on how we should store our firearms?

I'm LoLing so hard right now.

 

[tatic05]

Is this poll kind of like the poll we heard about a year or so ago about whether we should or should not have background checks? Also, it seems like you are lumping everyone into the same pot...which ultimately you being a gun owner are in as well. I think the people who stole the guns, or any gun for that matter, are the problem. I do understand that everyone has to have some responsibility but where do you draw the line on it? Is a locked door to your garage good enough or does everything in your garage need to be locked down to? Instead of helping the situation you are just throwing gas on the fire.

 

[RMC]

Interesting thread and I think it's one we should give some thought to instead of demeaning the person that started it. My thought is it was an unfortunate incident that none of us can undo but we should learn from it. We already know the "Left" want to blame the gun manufacturers and pardon the shooter. What if it's proven that one of those firearms were used in a heinous manner? Do you really think there would be no backlash? The anti-gun people would relish an opportunity to promote their agenda and gain more public support.

 

[Maximinus Thrax]

I will not vote either direction in a poll meant to validate or vilify one of two parties in an argument.

 

[U.S. Patriot]

Grow up. It really does not matter what any of us think. **** happens, and nothing will change that. No matter the security measures, guns are still stollen. You obviously have a sick obsession, or have nothing else better to do.

 

[danielson]

I understand the point the OP is trying to make. Whether or not you all want to believe it, things like this start and/or fuel the fires in the large majority of people in this country who arent "gun nuts" to cause further impeachment of our rights. In the same way that you lead by example when teaching someone gun safety, doing your level best to prevent criminals from obtaining your firearms (NFA or not) will help us all in the long run.

I know some of you default to pro 2a mode at the drop of a hat, but sometimes that hard nosed attitude is actually counter-productive. Things like this could lead to rules regarding the safe-keeping of NFA items, perhaps they will be so over the top that it makes it nearly impossible to obtain the proper licensing... Which is an idea Im sure the anti's have.

These are all things we need to think about. In the same way you think, if you always practice the 4 rules, and go out of your way to correct others on the range, then your doing your part to stop the idiots who shoot themselves in the foot outside a gun show, and give us all a black eye, you should strive to do your level best to keep your guns from being easily obtained by criminals.

Also, it IS important that these were NFA items, because they are filled with the potential for all the catchy anti gun headlines the mainstream media loves. On top of that, they are an already controlled item, and not something all gun owners in America relate to personally. That makes it one of the weaker lines for the anti gunners to attack.

Everything you do has consequences. I cannot personally believe anyone would trust a padlock and a trailer door alone to protect something as valuable. I wonder if they didn't also think they had secrecy on their side, and felt comfortable enough with that. But someone on the inside was either behind this, or accidentally made mention of it to someone who was. While there are in fact very lucky criminals out there, I smell something funny...

 

[U.S. Patriot]

I understand the point the OP is trying to make. Whether or not you all want to believe it, things like this start and/or fuel the fires in the large majority of people in this country who arent "gun nuts" to cause further impeachment of our rights. In the same way that you lead by example when teaching someone gun safety, doing your level best to prevent criminals from obtaining your firearms (NFA or not) will help us all in the long run.

I know some of you default to pro 2a mode at the drop of a hat, but sometimes that hard nosed attitude is actually counter-productive. Things like this could lead to rules regarding the safe-keeping of NFA items, perhaps they will be so over the top that it makes it nearly impossible to obtain the proper licensing... Which is an idea Im sure the anti's have.

These are all things we need to think about. In the same way you think, if you always practice the 4 rules, and go out of your way to correct others on the range, then your doing your part to stop the idiots who shoot themselves in the foot outside a gun show, and give us all a black eye, you should strive to do your level best to keep your guns from being easily obtained by criminals.

Also, it IS important that these were NFA items, because they are filled with the potential for all the catchy anti gun headlines the mainstream media loves. On top of that, they are an already controlled item, and not something all gun owners in America relate to personally. That makes it one of the weaker lines for the anti gunners to attack.

Everything you do has consequences. I cannot personally believe anyone would trust a padlock and a trailer door alone to protect something as valuable. I wonder if they didn't also think they had secrecy on their side, and felt comfortable enough with that. But someone on the inside was either behind this, or accidentally made mention of it to someone who was. While there are in fact very lucky criminals out there, I smell something funny...

So, does this apply to anyone that has had firearms stollen. You can take all the security measures, but if someone wants something, they will try and take it. Why would he do or say something that would cause something like this to happen. The chances of getting away clean are slim to none.

 

[mwsoccer]

What I do not understand is the need to jump to conclusions and vilify or in the other direction blindly support the victim in this case. I liken posters like Fargo to the Ferguson protesters. Without all the facts, unless Fargo you are one of the people investigating this crime and you are privy to all this information, you really have no reasoning for your vilification of ProFire. Just as the Ferguson protesters made up their mind on the guilt of the police officer, you have already determined that it was ProFires fault that the firearms were stolen. Could they have possibly done something different to help prevent the crime? Possibly. But why don't we all wait for all the facts to come out and things to play out before we start blaming the victims of crime.

 

[cbhausen]

Sez the guy who publicly advocated for laying machineguns out on the lawn unattended? What a beautiful picture of gunowners to put out.

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Yeah, cause the police have no clout with the legislature. Lets make sure we **** on them by leaving machineguns out for crooks to steal, so that they can then go try to recover a SAW from a criminal. The police have a legitimate beef here, we expect them to deal with the mess made by machineguns in criminal hands. Soft armor be damned.

If I was on IMPD out looking for these folks in my IIiA vest, I would be unbelievably ****ty with whoever left them out.

I know probably around 6 civie machingun owners.

"Leaving machineguns out for crooks to steal" is a bit of an exaggeration, no? Way to blame the victim here, very sporting of you. Do you also blame an attractive woman for being a rape victim? The responsibility for this lies with those who stole from Andrew, not Profire.

Get over the NFA aspect of this crime. You're squawking about it a lot more than any of the LEO on here. And whatever you do, don't ever be the victim of a crime and expect any sympathy around here.