OC Hassle #2

[88GT]

why do I never get to play with ignorant people?

I feel the same way about the census workers. I feel like I've been gyped.

 

[PatriotPride]

do you get in trouble when ask if your LEO if you respond with 'thats for me to know and you to find out'....?

That's always an option. You're under NO obligation to speak to anyone, police included. When asked, I state that I am not law enforcement and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[PatriotPride]

I feel the same way about the census workers. I feel like I've been gyped.

You're not missing much. It's much too easy---I mean for crying out loud, you don't even have to go find them. They come straight to your door

 

[MinuteMan47]

What about just answering questions with questions......???

"Are you law enforcement...?"

"Are you?"

"Can you carry that pistol like that....?"

"Can you?"

"Is that legal.....?!?"

"Is it?"

 

[CTC B4Z]

With how calm and collected I handled this situation, next time I think im going to have some fun.... question for question is good... or just pretend im a mime

 

[Lucas156]

Subway off 41 right in St. John. My usual stop I was waiting in line. The usual crew thats always there is there. Tell em what I want, I look out to my truck and theres a concerned citizen behind my truck looking at the plate... I see him storming in, little guy, about 5'3....

I continue with my order, so comes about 4 feet of me... I think he was a legit retard this time, not like the old bag from last time, he had wires coming out of his ears into his head and talked like Officer Duffy from Scary Movie(no offense to anyone here).

In a threatening stance he starts out?

"Are you a cop?!?!?!"

"no"

"then why do you have your gun out in the open like that?!?!"

"Cause its legal to carry in this state"

"its a conceal only permit!!!!"

"no its not, you can open carry or conceal, its your choice"

after he wiped the spit from his lips he stormed out with his iphone in hand...

Before I could turn to the counter the one young kid behind the counter says...

"I know him(me), he comes in all the time"

I say right aint it, just another citizen that doesnt know their rights.

Then the girl behind the counter stated she didnt know of any laws, the one guy then explained it was legal for a person to carry...

Good job man don't let em get ya down.
Here would be the way I would have handled it.
"Are you a cop?!?!?!"
"no"
"then why do you have your gun out in the open like that?!?!"
"Are you a cop?!?!?"
"no"
"ok then mind your own business thanks"

 

[IndyMonkey]

Catch me on the end of a long day and Mr. Citizen will get a #*&^ off.

 

[Lucas156]

lol amen Indymonkey

 

[brotherbill3]

why do I never get to play with ignorant people?

Maybe because you are always hanging out in here with all of us?

 

[IndyMonkey]

Maybe because you are always hanging out in here with all of us?

nicely played sir.

 

[CTC B4Z]

I was in a good mood so I didnt have much built up in me.

 

[PatriotPride]

Catch me on the end of a long day and Mr. Citizen will get a #*&^ off.

That's the condensed version

 

[infidel]

That sucks man. I'm lucky enough that I haven't had a problem like this yet....I guess it depends on my mood how I'm going to handle it.....maybe say nothing, maybe a nice "**** you"....I really like the answer the question with a question idea.

I like when people ask sensible questions about OC honestly, and regard those people like the guy you ran into as people society could gladly do without.

 

[MPD179]

Similar incident recently happened to an ISP detective about 4-5 weeks ago at one of the McDonalds restaurants in Merrillville. The ISP detective was ordering lunch when the McDonalds employee had a spaz attack over his OC weapon. She couldn't understand why he was in plain clothes carrying his weapon in the open and she just would not accept his answer that he was on duty and a LEO.

The very next evening I overheard the group of ISP detectives discussing a "New General Order" that they just received. They were told "ordered" if they were in plain clothing, on/off duty, their weapon is to be concealed at all times. We served a search warrant later that evening and I watched a ISP detective pull a Kimber Ultra 1911 from her ankle holster . First time I have ever seen a 1911 carried on the ankle.

 

[oldfb]

Maybe you should just give him a big shhhh and tell them you are undercover in a loud whisper.

 

[LPMan59]

i've never been hassled for carrying concealed.









paging ATM

 

[printcraft]

Maybe you should just give him a big shhhh and tell them you are undercover in a loud whisper.

NO tell him "YOU BLEW MY COVER"!

YouTube - Total Recall - the techs at Recall blow Houser's cover!

 

[henktermaat]

I feel the same way about the census workers. I feel like I've been gyped.

Ha- me too. I barely filled out my census form, and... no visit.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Subway off 41 right in St. John. My usual stop I was waiting in line. The usual crew thats always there is there. Tell em what I want, I look out to my truck and theres a concerned citizen behind my truck looking at the plate... I see him storming in, little guy, about 5'3....

I continue with my order, so comes about 4 feet of me... I think he was a legit retard this time, not like the old bag from last time, he had wires coming out of his ears into his head and talked like Officer Duffy from Scary Movie(no offense to anyone here).

In a threatening stance he starts out?

"Are you a cop?!?!?!"

"no"

"then why do you have your gun out in the open like that?!?!"

"Cause its legal to carry in this state"

"its a conceal only permit!!!!"

...

Even that's about one step more than I'd probably gone with him if that's an accurate description of the attitude he was "shooting" out.

I'd have probably told him to shut up and get out of my way before I paddle his ...

I'm really normally pretty mild but people with no authority who try to strut like an organ grinder's monkey and spout orders to me, bring out the "had enough of this" pretty quick.

 

[PatriotPride]

Similar incident recently happened to an ISP detective about 4-5 weeks ago at one of the McDonalds restaurants in Merrillville. The ISP detective was ordering lunch when the McDonalds employee had a spaz attack over his OC weapon. She couldn't understand why he was in plain clothes carrying his weapon in the open and she just would not accept his answer that he was on duty and a LEO.

The very next evening I overheard the group of ISP detectives discussing a "New General Order" that they just received. They were told "ordered" if they were in plain clothing, on/off duty, their weapon is to be concealed at all times. We served a search warrant later that evening and I watched a ISP detective pull a Kimber Ultra 1911 from her ankle holster . First time I have ever seen a 1911 carried on the ankle.

I've OC in all the McDonald's in Merrillville and have never had an issue. That's unfortunate.

It's also ridiculous that police departments try to regulate if you OC off-duty. I don't think it's quite lawful, but unfortunately if you don't comply it will cost you your job It's asinine on the face of it.