Obama admits it!

[Bill of Rights]

A friend forwarded this to me a day or so ago....

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He actually says he's the first former President to visit Kenya that was from there.


Thoughts? What might be the effect of this? Is he legally responsible for the fraud and what kind of punishment is possible, if so? (Some leeway of course for a case of first impression)

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Ingomike]

What constitutional steps would there be? I do not know of any. If he admitted this, which will be explained away as a misspeak, there is no political will to do anything to him.

 

[Libertarian01]

He's referring to his father's home country, not his.

He's saying something the crowd wants to hear.

He never claims in this video to have been born in Kenya.

He isn't under oath, so anything he is saying has no legal value.

Blog twists Obama's comments about being 'from Kenya'

A website revived suspicion of Barack Obama’s birthplace by using a quote from the former president’s recent visit to Ke

www.politifact.com

Regards,

Doug

 

[Ingomike]

He's referring to his father's home country, not his.

He's saying something the crowd wants to hear.

He never claims in this video to have been born in Kenya.

He isn't under oath, so anything he is saying has no legal value.

Blog twists Obama's comments about being 'from Kenya'

A website revived suspicion of Barack Obama’s birthplace by using a quote from the former president’s recent visit to Ke

www.politifact.com

Regards,

Doug

But, do you believe he was a constitutional citizen eligible to run for President?

 

[Bill of Rights]

What constitutional steps would there be? I do not know of any. If he admitted this, which will be explained away as a misspeak, there is no political will to do anything to him.

That was pretty much my question.

He's referring to his father's home country, not his.

He's saying something the crowd wants to hear.

He never claims in this video to have been born in Kenya.

He isn't under oath, so anything he is saying has no legal value.

Blog twists Obama's comments about being 'from Kenya'

A website revived suspicion of Barack Obama’s birthplace by using a quote from the former president’s recent visit to Ke

www.politifact.com

Regards,

Doug

Doug, I don't put much stock in Politifact (only slightly more than Snopes, for that matter,) and while he might have been saying something the crowd wanted to hear.... If I was giving a speech and the crowd wanted to hear I was a woman..... The crowd would be disappointed, because I won't lie, certainly not about that.

You are correct that he was not under oath, but he also did not correct himself, so the impression it gives is that this was not a misspeak. No, he did not say he was born there, but he did say he was "from there"... not that his father was.

I appreciate your reply. That said, them dogs don't hunt, IMHO.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[MCgrease08]

But, do you believe he was a constitutional citizen eligible to run for President?

He was president for 8 years and did a ton of damage to the country. It's already done. Can we please just move on and work to fix the country.

We need good republicans in congress who can fix the damage through good policy and show the American people that we don't have to stand for living in a pile of burning rubble.

Looking back on stuff that can't be changed, or talking about all the investigations they're going to do on Obama (or Biden for that matter) just serve to distract from the work ahead and give Dems a wedge issue to club the GOP with three weeks before an election.

This is noise. We have to move on.

 

[Ingomike]

I believe the evidence I have seen is adequate to believe that he committed fraud because he can’t have it both ways. He either was born in Kenya or he committed fraud at Harvard, either way makes him either ineligible or unfit for the Presidency…

 

[Ingomike]

He was president for 8 years and did a ton of damage to the country. It's already done. Can we please just move on and work to fix the country.

We need good republicans in congress who can fix the damage through good policy and show the American people that we don't have to stand for living in a pile of burning rubble.

Looking back on stuff that can't be changed, or talking about all the investigations they're going to do on Obama (or Biden for that matter) just serve to distract from the work ahead and give Dems a wedge issue to club the GOP with three weeks before an election.

This is noise. We have to move on.

Agreed. I do find it interesting to look at how far we have come in the last 40 years I have been following politics. Crazy!

 

[Jaybird1980]

The great honorable Barry is beyond reach.

I'd rather not waste more taxpayer money on theatrics that will lead nowhere.

 

[JEBland]

The speech:



He starts by talking about his father's country. He seems to say he is from Kenya more as a rhetorical device than being literal. It's also a way to push his personal agenda of dependence on the state (in this case, Kenya's state).
As for the book jacket: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/promotional-booklet/
Now, we don't have to believe Snopes absolutely, but they do cite a NYT article from 1990 saying that he was born in Hawaii. One might accuse him over simply covering his tracks since 1990 on the location of birth, socialist tendencies and ties, etc, but if making the charge, I think we need a bit more than that blip from his speech in Kenya.

Aside from factual determinations:
What scares me the most is that my generation all throughout the West has increasing socialist ideological tendancies. Many would say "So what if Obama was born in Kenya? Who cares. He was the greatest president we've ever had." They simply don't care about the rule of law, the rules are what oppresses people in their view. Of course that Obama forwarded the 50+ years of social policy that has continually harmed poor black and white people alike is irrelevant. That under Obama the US federal government took over 1/6 of the US economy was just a step in the right direction". The fact that he called for private industries to abuse the current asymmetrical section 230 protections to limit "bad" free speech is just him doing the "right" thing. It's what makes them feel good.

At this point - even if we had 100% sure proof that Obama was a fraud, a socialist, or any other claim, the "think about the goal" people would do their best to leverage any such proof to undermine our crumbling social and political structures. I don't know if we can bring them to reality, to be honest. Most educated people don't care about evidence, and if confronted with contradictory evidence typically dismiss it. The notion of his superficial representation will beat out any detailed criticisms of him.



Long story short:
I think we should focus on improving policy, protecting the judiciary, and holding the far-left accountable for harming the very people they claim to protect.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I believe the evidence I have seen is adequate to believe that he committed fraud because he can’t have it both ways. He either was born in Kenya or he committed fraud at Harvard, either way makes him either ineligible or unfit for the Presidency…

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Even your original source doesn't believe it proves either. An agent wrote the blurb, it's unknown if Obama saw it ahead of time, and "fraud" requires more than a lie anyway. But, yes, politicians and celebrities often exaggerate or play up certain aspects of their background to different crowds to appear more likeable or relatable. As do we all, though not all with fictitious exploits.

The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii'

Note from Senior Management: Andrew Breitbart was never a "Birther," and Breitbart News is a site that has never advocated the narrative of "Birtherism." |

www.breitbart.com

 

[Cameramonkey]

I'd venture to guess that even if this was proven so far after the fact, the most we could do is take away his secret service protection and pension. And MAYBE claw back the pay he was given while in office. But that too is a bit of a stretch.

My basis is that if he was ineligible for the office, he is not eligible for the pay and other benefits.

EDIT: Of course since this is a leftist Democrat, the media wont even bring it up. And there will be zero motivation to do ANYTHING by TPTB. Even if they were to acknowlege it, there may be some hand wringing, but in the end they'll determine the horse is out of the barn and we need to just move on.

Now if it was a Conservative that was accused of this, It would be the lead story 3x a day, there would be calls for investigations, and they wouldnt sleep until he was shipped off to GITMO, and all of his wealth taken.

 

[manifest destiny]

Aside from factual determinations:
What scares me the most is that my generation all throughout the West has increasing socialist ideological tendancies. Many would say "So what if Obama was born in Kenya? Who cares. He was the greatest president we've ever had." They simply don't care about the rule of law, the rules are what oppresses people in their view. Of course that Obama forwarded the 50+ years of social policy that has continually harmed poor black and white people alike is irrelevant. That under Obama the US federal government took over 1/6 of the US economy was just a step in the right direction". The fact that he called for private industries to abuse the current asymmetrical section 230 protections to limit "bad" free speech is just him doing the "right" thing. It's what makes them feel good.

This. Followers and adherents to the O' Great One will never accept the demonstrable proof that Barry hates America. He's beyond reproach and 100% off-limits for critique. His place of birth, wherever that may be, is not my reason for disdain; his actions are.

 

[Libertarian01]

But, do you believe he was a constitutional citizen eligible to run for President?

100% absolutely, yes. There is zero (0) evidence to prove otherwise. None. Nothing. I mean "evidence" as in real, credible facts that can be verified.

He has been out of office for about six (6) years. He was in office for eight (8) years. That is 14 years for somebody to find something credible. I don't count grandma as credible. She is/was probably a sweet olde lady that meant no malice, but as we age we tend to remember more of what we wanted to and less of what was.

I don't like his polices. I don't like what he did to the country. I do believe he was a legal candidate that won the election.

Regards,

Doug

 

[KellyinAvon]

Claims to be one of the people he’s speaking to. Biden claimed Puerto Rican influence the other day, maybe all those years around Biden rubbed off on Barry.

 

[Mgderf]

He's saying something the crowd wants to hear.
What else is new?
He never claims in this video to have been born in Kenya, just being "from there"

anything he is saying has no value.

Blog twists Obama's comments about being 'from Kenya'

A website revived suspicion of Barack Obama’s birthplace by using a quote from the former president’s recent visit to Ke

www.politifact.com

Regards,

Doug

Fify

 

[Ingomike]

They simply don't care about the rule of law, the rules are what oppresses people in their view

Scary for us constitutional rule of law types…

 

[BigRed]

I believe the evidence I have seen is adequate to believe that he committed fraud because he can’t have it both ways. He either was born in Kenya or he committed fraud at Harvard, either way makes him either ineligible or unfit for the Presidency…

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That son of a ***** is unfit for any position....regardless of where the ******* was born.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Scary for us constitutional rule of law types…

I’ve heard it said and it strikes me as accurate: we are not a nation of laws, we are a nation of political will.

 

[Tombs]

It doesn't matter if he was on camera molesting kids, nothing will happen. Biden proved this thoroughly.