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  • csaws

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    I got this email today from the NRA... whether you agree with the NRA or not please join a gun advocacy of some type to help fight for our Right to Keep and bear Arms.


    **** Alert *** Alert *** Alert ****
    Dear Fellow NRA Member,
    In the next few days, you'll receive your new NRA membership card.
    The moment you receive it, I urge you to validate your new membership card as soon as possible. More than ever, we need you to stand with NRA and fight to save our Second Amendment freedoms.
    Because Barack Obama's campaign promise
    not to take away our guns is a lie.
    He's not even in office, yet he's fired the opening salvos in a war against the future of the Second Amendment, our hunting and shooting traditions, and YOU.
    Obama's FIRST attack on YOU: Appointing Illinois Congressman Rahm Emanuel to be White House Chief of Staff. In Congress, Emanuel earned an "F" rating from NRA, and while working in the Clinton Administration, he was known as the "point man on gun control." He is an avowed enemy of the Second Amendment and will wield enormous power in the battle for the future of our firearm freedoms.
    Obama's SECOND attack on YOU: If Hillary Clinton is confirmed as Secretary of State, she'll rip the Second Amendment right out of the Bill of Rights. She'll be our nation's top diplomat with the power to determine whether the United Nations will pass, and Obama will sign, a global gun ban treaty that will surrender our Second Amendment rights and our national sovereignty.
    Obama's THIRD attack on YOU: Nominating ex-Senator and former Majority Leader Tom Daschle-an avowed enemy of NRA-to be Secretary of Health and Human Services. NRA was responsible for defeating Daschle when he ran in South Dakota for re-election to the Senate. If Daschle is confirmed, he could hold the ultimate power to declare guns a "public health menace" and regulate away our essential liberties.
    Obama's FOURTH attack on YOU: Nominating Eric Holder to be Attorney General. As former Assistant Attorney General, Holder was a key architect and vocal advocate for the Clinton era's sweeping gun ban agenda. He supported national handgun licensing, mandatory trigger locks, and ending gun shows as we know them.
    Just recently, Holder opposed the District of Columbia's Heller decision that declared the Second Amendment an individual right. Holder also called for reviving the Clinton gun bans and, as Attorney General, would fight in court to prevent the landmark Heller decision from being made applicable to state and local governments.
    Worst of all, if Holder is confirmed as the nation's top law-enforcement officer, he would control BATFE and wield enormous power to harass gun owners and sue America's arms makers out of existence.
    Obama's FIFTH attack on YOU: In the job application for the Obama Administration, he made it clear that gun owners are second-class citizens and told 80 million gun owners not to even bother applying for a job. In the "White House Personnel Data Questionnaire" he asked:
    "Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide
    complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever
    lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has
    been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage."
    This chilling notice to gun owners-that they are not welcome to serve in his Administration-shows the deep hostility for Americans' Second Amendment Freedoms that Obama and his Administration have in their hearts.
    On its face, that question endorses gun registration-a mandate in only five states in our nation-and buys into the anti-gun premise that firearms are inherently dangerous and gun owners are prone to misusing them.
    That's an outrageous mindset, especially for the President-elect whose sworn duty will be to uphold the U.S. Constitution, including our right to keep and bear arms.
    Obama CLEARLY wants to make gun registration the law of the land.
    First for employees under his control...AND THEN FOR YOU.
    Working with a Congress dominated by gun haters like Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, John Conyers, Henry Waxman, and Charles Schumer!!!
    Rubbing salt in gun owner wounds is the Brady Campaign, which just issued a completely bogus poll claiming that two-thirds of the Americans-including 60% of all gun owners-favor gun registration, licensing of firearm owners, and other sweeping restrictions on our firearm freedoms!
    Add it all up and you have the potential
    for a Second Amendment disaster that's unlike
    any other NRA members have ever battled.
    That's why we need the strongest possible commitment from EVERY NRA member, starting today. That's why I'm hoping you'll validate your new NRA membership card the moment you receive it.
    Because our greatest strength is you.
    Only by working with you can NRA hold the line against these threats from every quarter. We are the one force that has the strength to keep Americans free and our rights intact for future generations. With you at our side, we will fight and we will prevail against all odds.
    Thank you for your loyalty to NRA and the cause of Freedom.
     

    Crystalship1

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    Like I said whomever you join... join someone.

    Exactly. I too am an NRA member but when my membership expires (in two years), I'll direct the membership fee from them to another organization such as the GOA, 2nd Amendment Foundation, JPFO, or another more aggressive and less complacent 2nd Amendment rights organization. :rockwoot:

    The NRA sleeps with the enemy FAR too often for my tastes. :noway:

    :cheers:
     

    jedi

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    Sadly I have to agree with ya on this one. We have been :toilet2:.
    So what the the GOA do? Do they send their members letter after letter for money as well? Do they lobby for law changes?
     

    SirRealism

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    Exactly. I too am an NRA member but when my membership expires (in two years), I'll direct the membership fee from them to another organization such as the GOA, 2nd Amendment Foundation, JPFO, or another more aggressive and less complacent 2nd Amendment rights organization. :rockwoot:

    The NRA sleeps with the enemy FAR too often for my tastes. :noway:

    :cheers:

    I was an NRA member many moons ago, but let my membership lapse. Can you give me some examples of what they've been doing that's not in our best interest? I've been out of the loop. I'll join something soon, but I don't really know which one is the most effective. I know that's like asking for your favorite gun... but what are the major gripes against the NRA?
     

    antsi

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    Exactly. I too am an NRA member but when my membership expires (in two years), I'll direct the membership fee from them to another organization such as the GOA, 2nd Amendment Foundation, JPFO, or another more aggressive and less complacent 2nd Amendment rights organization.

    I would argue that the best strategy is to contribute BOTH to the NRA AND to one of the smaller organizations.

    In any political movement, you have to sometimes make decisions about being ideologically pure and standing on principle, versus being pragmatic and playing politics to get results accomplished.

    If you always stand on principle and never play politics, you will not accomplish much. If you always play politics and never stand on principle, you will get things done but what you get done will not live up to your principles.

    For any political movement to be successful, there has to be a mix of practical politics and ideological principles.

    I do agree some of the smaller gun rights orgs are more ideologically principled. There is no question, however, that the NRA is more politically effective.

    That's why I say we should support both.

    If you are focusing on short term legislative agendas - getting laws passed that are possible to get passed in the short term - you want an organization that can play practical effective politics.

    If you want to focus on long term agendas, and promote your ideals, then SAF and GOA can be tremendously helpful.

    Both these kinds of fights are necessary, and it is often helpful to have different organizations to fight these different kinds of fights.

    It's silly to criticize the NRA for being political and playing Washington games. Sometimes we need that.

    It's silly to criticize GOA and SOF for being smaller fringe organizations with a more radical agenda that is less likely to get passed in the near future. Sometimes we need organizations working for the long term ideals, too.

    So the correct answer to the question "Should I support the NRA or the GOA?" is "Yes!"
     

    Crystalship1

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    I was an NRA member many moons ago, but let my membership lapse. Can you give me some examples of what they've been doing that's not in our best interest? I've been out of the loop. I'll join something soon, but I don't really know which one is the most effective. I know that's like asking for your favorite gun... but what are the major gripes against the NRA?

    Opinion updated - CLICKY -----> https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo..._gun_owners_dislike_the_nra-2.html#post175141 :cheers:
     
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