Metal detectors @ banks.

[minuteman32]

I had an incident today @ National City Bank that I thought would be of interest here. Since "we" are not "an organization", per se, I don't believe I'm jumping the gun (so to speak) from what I stated in my email to NatCity, below. I didn't want to play the "cop card" or "race card" (I am caucasian, btw), but did figure it might get their attention a little more.
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I am rather concerned w/ the policy of @ least one of your branches, perhaps more. I stopped @ the 38th & Georgetown Rd. branch in Indianapolis today to make a deposit. I walked in and was told that I "had too much metal on".(!?) Are coins not made of metal? I proceeded to hold my police department ID & badge up so it could be seen. I was told since I wasn't "in uniform" I couldn't come in. (!? again). Do detectives & investigators wear uniforms?
I understand this branch was robbed in the past, but having a metal detector @ the door only relays the message that you don't care what happens to customers outside, but you'll make sure to keep your stuff safe inside! Also, since this (and the 56th & Georgetown branch, which also has the metal detectors @ the entrance) are in a predominantly African American area of the city, I have to wonder why this is where you have metal detectors. I know they are not @ the other locations I have visited (especially in Carmel & downtown Indy). Of course, those are more affluent & predominantly Caucasian areas.
I am hopeful that a positive resolution can be accomplished to this apparently discriminatory policy. Since I am on vacation most of next week, I will await your response before alerting my local F.O.P. and other organizations to which I belong, or have might have an interest in this for their other members.
Thank you.

 

[kbrown84]

it always makes me laugh how banks always bring in security measures after the fact. a bank is robbed, and then they hire the 75 year old man with a hi-point to guard the bank...geesh!

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[indyjoe]

You just need to pick up a ceramic Glock 9 and plastic ammo. Then you should be fine.

I'd be temped to ask them if they could send someone out in the parking lot to help me close out my accounts.

 

[4sarge]

If National City Bank was where I had my account and I was refused entrance after showing ID etc, then I'd be moving my money. If you are a FOP Lodge 86 member, join the IPD Credit Union, have your check direct deposited. I think that I'd be calling someone at the corporate office for a clarification of their bank entrance policies. Someone's head needs to roll

 

[rhino]

How do they expect you to do your business if you have an account and they won't let you in? Even if you were willing to "leave it in the car," what if someone dropped you off or you rode the bus or a bicycle?

I'd damn well move my money the first time this happened to me.

 

[melensdad]

I carry in a bank all the time and have never seen one with a metal detector at the door. The whole point of carrying when I go to the bank is to protect myself from robbery when I am making a deposit. If I have to leave my gun in the car then I would expect them to send a security guard out to escort me in!!!

 

[mosesiscarryingapdw]

Get a better bank, if you can: www.usaa.com

I haven't visited any sort of a bank branch in over a year, except to an outside atm for cash (mostly for buying guns).

 

[nofear]

Makes me think about changing my bank, but all the ones I goto do not have metal detectors.

 

[40calPUNISHER]

is it the kinda bank that has the air lock were they wont unlock to door to let you in until you pass through the metal detector?

 

[Scutter01]

National City Bank and I parted company many moons ago after they refused to make change for a hundred dollar bill for me, claiming (incorrectly) that I didn't have an account with them. As it happened, I had my mortgage with them as well as several other accounts.

Hope it was worth it, guys, cuz you'll never get my business again!

 

[rhino]

What would suck is if they put in metal detectors AFTER you put valuable stuff in the safe deposit box.

 

[Bill of Rights]

I'd move my money double-quick, via online access, if my bank refused me entry due to my firearm. I'd write a letter first and clarify that it's not just one panty-wetter speaking for the bank without authority, but once I knew that it was in fact a supported policy, they'd lose my account and I'd suggest the same to everyone else I knew.

Question: I was told recently that carrying in a bank (a national bank) is a violation of the law. I don't believe this is the case. I know it's not a violation of IN state law, but does anyone know if there's federal statute to that effect?

Thanks!

Blessings,
B

 

[Scutter01]

The thing is that the bank doesn't give a crap about our petty little deposit accounts. Even a mortgage isn't worth that much to them. They're worth so little to their bottom line that even if you got everyone you know to close their accounts, that they wouldn't even show up as a blip on their profits.

 

[spasmo]

Question: I was told recently that carrying in a bank (a national bank) is a violation of the law. I don't believe this is the case. I know it's not a violation of IN state law, but does anyone know if there's federal statute to that effect?

From what I have been reading, the majority says that it is NOT a federal offense to carry inside a bank. There may be signs on the door saying no guns which then would lead to trespassing, etc but not a federal offense unless you were going in with the intent of robbing the bank.

This incident just happened in Michigan and I am sure if it were a federal offense, it would have been in the paper...
Armed Citizen: 'You Are Not Robbing This Bank!' | NewsBusters.org

 

[iam1096]

Am I missing something here? If I was stupid and was going to rob a bank, Would metal Detectors stop me? Iam already going to jail for robbing the bank, do I care if I make the guard mad at the door?
I left National City years ago, I applied for a loan when I was a police officer. I was buying a AR-10 for the car and a second chance vest. I was told no because of what I said I was buying. This was about 7 years ago and haven't been back. Chase approved me and asked if I needed more than what I asked for. They gave me lower loan rate too.

 

[Episcopus]

The thing is that the bank doesn't give a crap about our petty little deposit accounts. Even a mortgage isn't worth that much to them. They're worth so little to their bottom line that even if you got everyone you know to close their accounts, that they wouldn't even show up as a blip on their profits.

That all depends on the size of the bank. If it is a large national bank like Chase or Bank of America, then no, we don't matter. But if it is a small bank like the State Bank of Lizton, they would fold. No money on deposit means no money to lend. No money to lend means no interest to charge. No interest to charge, no money being made. It would probably even affect regional banks like Horizon or 1st Source, if you got enough people to withdraw funds.

This is about National City, so no, they wouldn't even feel it.

 

[Crystalship1]

I left National City years ago, I applied for a loan when I was a police officer. I was buying a AR-10 for the car and a second chance vest. I was told no because of what I said I was buying. This was about 7 years ago and haven't been back. Chase approved me and asked if I needed more than what I asked for. They gave me lower loan rate too.

Makes me happy that I just switched from Charter One to Chase!!!

 

[Scutter01]

We're in the process of changing banks yet again as ING has decided that their checking accounts will no longer be allowed to use checks. You can only use credit/debit cards and ATM's. If you want to write a check, you have to log onto their website, enter the information, and they'll mail a check to the recipient. That is the god damn dumbest bank policy I've seen since they decided to start charging to talk to a teller.

 

[sparkyfender]

Just came from my bank.

Was carrying a rather basic 1911 in an OWB holster under my shirt.

No metal detectors. And I am always armed whenever I go inside for a transaction.

 

[iam1096]

Talked to one of the loan officers at Chase, asked him about carring into the bank. He said his branch has no problems with it as long as your a not robbing the bank. Then he said he likes the thought of the BG's not knowing who has a gun and who doesn't. I like Chase bank.