Great.
Now I have 3 rifles on my radar.
It just never ends.
What are the other 2? Sorry if its been covered herein already.
Great.
Now I have 3 rifles on my radar.
It just never ends.
Totally unsolicited and potentially harsh advice follows ... proceed with caution.Great.
Now I have 3 rifles on my radar.
It just never ends.
Unfortunately this is very true. Get some good ammo and glass first. Once you get to where you are consistently sub MOA, maybe then consider dropping the coin on a better rifle.Totally unsolicited and potentially harsh advice follows ... proceed with caution.
It will never end as long as you are pursuing accuracy via equipment. You currently have all that you need to create sub MOA groups at any range that you care to shoot at. In fact, we've seen some of your groups that prove this.
What you lack cannot be bought in aisle 9 ... you need to consistently apply the proper shooting techniques that so many have shared with you. That's it.
Off the soap box now.
The other side of the coin is that you are having good safe fun. It's your time and your money to spend how you see fit. Who am I to be a buzz kill?
I don't mind at all, & know I'm a walking target since I don't hide my foibles.Totally unsolicited and potentially harsh advice follows ... proceed with caution.
It will never end as long as you are pursuing accuracy via equipment. You currently have all that you need to create sub MOA groups at any range that you care to shoot at. In fact, we've seen some of your groups that prove this.
What you lack cannot be bought in aisle 9 ... you need to consistently apply the proper shooting techniques that so many have shared with you. That's it.
Off the soap box now.
The other side of the coin is that you are having good safe fun. It's your time and your money to spend how you see fit. Who am I to be a buzz kill?
1. Tikka: I've talked to guys here that have them or want them or that I've seen great range pics ofWhat are the other 2? Sorry if its been covered herein already.
A big part of why those rifles shoot so well is the user. In my case with the Tikka, I was capable of out shooting my Ruger American so if I wanted better performance I HAD to step it up. The Ruger is o.k. for what it is, a 1-2 MOA rifle with mid range ammo, but I wanted better. The Tikka is sub MOA with the same ammo, and if I decide I want better then I'll need to get better ammo. I'm certain it could push hard on 1/2 MOA with really good ammo. Not sure I'm up to it, but I think the rifle is.1. Tikka: I've talked to guys here that have them or want them or that I've seen great range pics of
2. Bergara (they have a new $600 econo version)
B/C of seeing range pics, I recently have bought:
- Different CZ rifles: the 512 semi-auto, 457 Trainer & recently the 455 Varmint from Rala
- Savage A22 (Ggreen did well with this)
- Savage FV-SR bolt action from zachcz
So much good stuff here!A big part of why those rifles shoot so well is the user. In my case with the Tikka, I was capable of out shooting my Ruger American so if I wanted better performance I HAD to step it up. The Ruger is o.k. for what it is, a 1-2 MOA rifle with mid range ammo, but I wanted better. The Tikka is sub MOA with the same ammo, and if I decide I want better then I'll need to get better ammo. I'm certain it could push hard on 1/2 MOA with really good ammo. Not sure I'm up to it, but I think the rifle is.
Now, wanting a better rifle and growing into it, o.k., yeah, I can see doing that. In the long run it would probably be cheaper if a person did that right off the bat. Also if the rifle doesn't "fit", replacing it with something that is a better match would probably be a good idea. That's a big reason I no longer have any CZs, they just didn't fit me, at all. But buying a Anschutz and expecting to be consistently sub MOA right off the bat, ehhh, probably not going to happen.
But also using 2 MOA ammo with a 2 MOA scope on a 1/2 MOA rifle will get you...yep, 2 MOA accuracy and precision. It all has to work together. You've already got rifles that should be capable of very good if not outstanding accuracy and precision.
So its been said already, and I'll say it again. Work on the basics first. Once you've got that down, consistent groups that aren't getting any smaller will be the clue, then look at better glass and ammo, especially the ammo. Cheap ammo has its place, but trying to put holes in the same place time after time after time, ain't it.
Now that's the new "funniest thing I've heard all day."Probably time for friendly competitions doddg, like best group gets the others rifle. .
You would insist on using iron sights, knowing that I would be lost at any distance.That’s only pistols. You know I’m a less serious rifle shooter than you are. 50 yards is the max limit where I have fun doing it.
Sounds like a plan. Winner gets the savageYou would insist on using iron sights, knowing that I would be lost at any distance.
Sounds like a plan. Winner gets the savage
I like the way you worded that: "you have to work up to the level of..."As stated above, learn the fundamentals of shooting, make sure you have the right glass, that it's setup correctly, etc. With that CZ rifle, you have a gun that you have to work up to the level of, meaning that the gun is already capable of outstanding results, you just have to train up to its level. Get good, consistent results that you're happy with at 25 or 50 yards, then and only then push it out farther. You have a benefit of having bought the rifle from someone on INGO, so you can reach out to them to find out what ammo the gun liked best, unless you've already done so. You can still do some testing with other ammo, but generally if the time was spent to find the best ammo that works with the gun, it's best to stick with it if it's available. Part of the fun is the testing, but if you already know, you eliminate one variable in your quest for good groups.
I like the way you worded that: "you have to work up to the level of..."
I know that applies to me x10.
Buying guns from people I know & have bought from on INGO before is my favorite way to acquire.
I am looking forward to next summer to see what it brings.
Right now I'm going to work on which rifle(s) I enjoy more than another.
I can see that might be near impossible b/c I do so love the variety.
Buying new guns is fine, but realize that until you have wrung all of the potential out of your current gun(s), there really isn't a reason to buy something else if you're trying to get more accurate. The stuff you have is already good enough. Once you are as good as you can get with those guns, then maybe look at something else if what you have isn't meeting a need. The only reason I recently bought a .308 rifle is due to not having a centerfire bolt action rifle yet. Now that I do, I won't buy another unless the one I have doesn't meet my needs in some way, though I know it won't be accuracy...