Liberal teacher fired!

[bingley]

Millennials are just too fragile to handle an Allen Ginsberg poem. We need to put them in a padded room and protect them from the nasties of the world.

Award-Winning Teacher Fired for Reading an Allen Ginsberg Poem - The Daily Beast

 

[MCgrease08]

Free speech, open discussion and deep thought has no place in our schools.

The establishment doesn't want students to learn critical thinking skills. Move along.

 

[ModernGunner]

Good. 'Bout time the libtards got around to looking in the mirror.

Well, at least this ONE time.

 

[oldpink]

A cursory read of the article indicates that this was not an institution of higher learning, i.e. college.
No, this appears to be a high school!
While everyone is screeching about "free speech," how many of you here are comfortable with your high schoolers having some of Allen Ginsberg's filth read aloud to them?
Shall we discuss his advocacy on behalf of NAMBLA?

 

[Mgderf]

A cursory read of the article indicates that this was not an institution of higher learning, i.e. college.
No, this appears to be a high school!
While everyone is screeching about "free speech," how many of you here are comfortable with your high schoolers having some of Allen Ginsberg's filth read aloud to them?
Shall we discuss his advocacy on behalf of NAMBLA?

What do the North American Marlin Brando Look Alikes have to do with this?

 

[Thor]

This shouldn't even be news, we should all assume that of course a high school teacher that reads pornography to students will get sacked...and the student who brought the poem forward should have been suspended too.

The correct action for the teacher would have been to tell the student that the poem was inappropriate and offensive and to go see the principal, then call the parents. But of course that would only be in a world where the darlings are expected to have some discipline and be responsible for their actions.

 

[Thor]

What do the North American Marlin Brando Look Alikes have to do with this?

Would that be the Rebel Without a Cause Marlin or the Godfather Marlin? If it's all the above almost anyone could play...sort of like Orson Wells...

 

[silverspoon]

I don't see anything wrong with what the teacher done. It was an advanced English class for college credits. The kids was 17 and 18 years old, young adults that confront sexuality every single day. Young adults that within the next year or year and a half will be out of the house and off to college. If you haven't talked to your kids about sex way before then you have done them a serious disservice. If you think they aren't discussing among themselves your fooling yourselves and it's time to get your head out of the sand. It isn't like it was a plain ole English class for freshman. Even then by the time they are freshmen you had better have had "the talk" and make sure those lines of communication are open, like way open. No damn wonder most kids are so screwed up in the head. How the heck do you teach your kids to confront reality when you can't confront it yourself?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

 

[ViperJock]

If the Pledge of Allegiance, Christian prayer, and the Bible are too offensive for high schoolers to be exposed to, I can't see this being allowed either. Just because its "poetry" doesn't make it worth reading.

 

[silverspoon]

If the Pledge of Allegiance, Christian prayer, and the Bible are too offensive for high schoolers to be exposed to, I can't see this being allowed either. Just because its "poetry" doesn't make it worth reading.

I don't know what school you send your kids to but if I was you I'd send them to another school. Every morning where my kid goes to school they say the Pledge of Allegiance and there's a moment of silence for kids to pray or whatever. I'm ok with the Bible not being in school. If the Bible is there then they have to let every other religious book there too. Your kids should be getting religious training from YOU every single day. That's your responsibility. The Bible says it's the father's responsibility if you want to get technical. School is not a place for religious training. I don't want teachers indoctrinating my kids with something I don't agree or believe in do you? They would essentially get a different religious viewpoint from every teacher they have. One teacher might be Roman Catholic, the next Muslim then yet another Protestant and the list goes on and on.

 

[oldpink]

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[oldpink]

I don't see anything wrong with what the teacher done. It was an advanced English class for college credits. The kids was 17 and 18 years old, young adults that confront sexuality every single day. Young adults that within the next year or year and a half will be out of the house and off to college. If you haven't talked to your kids about sex way before then you have done them a serious disservice. If you think they aren't discussing among themselves your fooling yourselves and it's time to get your head out of the sand. It isn't like it was a plain ole English class for freshman. Even then by the time they are freshmen you had better have had "the talk" and make sure those lines of communication are open, like way open. No damn wonder most kids are so screwed up in the head. How the heck do you teach your kids to confront reality when you can't confront it yourself?

So, you basically believe that the school's (and yours, apparently) decisions on what your kids should be taught, even if it's pornographic literature, takes precedence over what the parents' would have?
Just line up the little darlings for their state-sanctioned propaganda and get right in line with the rest of the wards of the state?

I don't know what school you send your kids to but if I was you I'd send them to another school. Every morning where my kid goes to school they say the Pledge of Allegiance and there's a moment of silence for kids to pray or whatever. I'm ok with the Bible not being in school. If the Bible is there then they have to let every other religious book there too. Your kids should be getting religious training from YOU every single day. That's your responsibility. The Bible says it's the father's responsibility if you want to get technical. School is not a place for religious training. I don't want teachers indoctrinating my kids with something I don't agree or believe in do you? They would essentially get a different religious viewpoint from every teacher they have. One teacher might be Roman Catholic, the next Muslim then yet another Protestant and the list goes on and on.

The part in bold quoted for extreme irony.

 

[ViperJock]

I don't know what school you send your kids to but if I was you I'd send them to another school. Every morning where my kid goes to school they say the Pledge of Allegiance and there's a moment of silence for kids to pray or whatever. I'm ok with the Bible not being in school. If the Bible is there then they have to let every other religious book there too. Your kids should be getting religious training from YOU every single day. That's your responsibility. The Bible says it's the father's responsibility if you want to get technical. School is not a place for religious training. I don't want teachers indoctrinating my kids with something I don't agree or believe in do you? They would essentially get a different religious viewpoint from every teacher they have. One teacher might be Roman Catholic, the next Muslim then yet another Protestant and the list goes on and on.

You totally missed the point. But great assumptions! Even if they are totally incorrect.

 

[cobber]

So, you basically believe that the school's (and yours, apparently) decisions on what your kids should be taught, even if it's pornographic literature, takes precedence over what the parents' would have?
Just line up the little darlings for their state-sanctioned propaganda and get right in line with the rest of the wards of the state?



The part in bold quoted for extreme irony.

And now for your viewing enjoyment kids, a little movie "Last Tango in Paris" (keeping with the NAMBLA theme), followed by "Fifty Shades of Gray". But don't worry parents, it's art, not nasty, stinky religious propaganda.


And because someone doesn't want their kid exposed to Allen Ginsberg this means the parent can't handle reality? That's a leap of Olympic proportions!

 

[indiucky]

I don't think Ginsberg's poems should be taught in school for the same reason (and I may take some heat for this) I do not think Maya Angelou's poems should be taught.......Their poems ain't that dang good....

 

[silverspoon]

So, you basically believe that the school's (and yours, apparently) decisions on what your kids should be taught, even if it's pornographic literature, takes precedence over what the parents' would have?
Just line up the little darlings for their state-sanctioned propaganda and get right in line with the rest of the wards of the state?

No, what I'm saying is this. As a parent you should have already had discussions with your child so that by the time they are 17 or 18 they can make up their own minds what is pornographic or not, whether it has artistic value or not. By the time your kids are 17 or 18 chances are they have probably already had sex and if not it isn't far off.

The part in bold quoted for extreme irony.

By the time they are 17 or 18 you had better have them indoctrinated because if you don't it's too late. For the most part I really don't care what they teach them at school. If it's something I don't agree with I use it to have a conversation not bury my head in the sand. Someone out there is talking to your kid about things every single day.

 

[You'll shoot your eye out]

I brought a poem by Rudyard Kipling to English class with the intention of wrecking things. It did. For punishment I was sentenced to reading before the class. I chose Shakespeare. When that choice of subject matter was revealed my reading was cut short with a trip to the dean to explain myself. After a lengthy discussion on classic literature it was (unilaterally) decided that I would now stick to contemporary writers. I chose and we agreed on the award winning Issac Asimov. I was able to get four of Asimov's most filthy limericks out before they could stop the performance. I found that high-school faculty has a severely limited grasp on what smut is really available in classic literature

 

[Cygnus]

What do the North American Marlin Brando Look Alikes have to do with this?

Please go on Dr. Mofesto. Did anyone read a poem about a four-assed monkey?



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[Cygnus]

No, what I'm saying is this. As a parent you should have already had discussions with your child so that by the time they are 17 or 18 they can make up their own minds what is pornographic or not, whether it has artistic value or not. By the time your kids are 17 or 18 chances are they have probably already had sex and if not it isn't far off.

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You have made all the INGO members with teenage daughters faint......