Is it ethical to hunt deer with a 223 or 5.56x45mm

[Hawkj]

Ethical or not, I’m sure it will work fine for some but I personally would not use it. I prefer something with some more knockdown power.

 

[Michigan Slim]

I don't care so much about knockdown power. I like big holes to let their inside outside.

 

[DadSmith]

I don't care so much about knockdown power. I like big holes to let their inside outside.

Speaking of that I was talking to my father about getting a 45/70 single shot rifle for deer hunting. I like the Henry single shot.

 

[Hookeye]

Single shot and .45-70.....id go Ruger #1S. Unfortunately i dislike big rimmed cartridges ( aesthetic ) so would opt for a .460 smith or .44 mag.

just textd a bud about how cool a #1A in 6.5 grendel.would be.

 

[DadSmith]

Single shot and .45-70.....id go Ruger #1S. Unfortunately i dislike big rimmed cartridges ( aesthetic ) so would opt for a .460 smith or .44 mag.

just textd a bud about how cool a #1A in 6.5 grendel.would be.

My father said he'd like one in 44mag or 30-30
I'm set for 44mag. I've always wanted a 45/70.

 

[Hookeye]

I gotta get off my azz and figure out what to do about my #3. My dads old #1 is beat to heck but shoots .75 w factory Norma .22 -250 and its bone stock. No forend work, triggrr job, nuthin. So guess ill leave that one as is. Its not great but entirely usable for yotes IMHO

 

[DadSmith]

I gotta get off my azz and figure out what to do about my #3. My dads old #1 is beat to heck but shoots .75 w factory Norma .22 -250 and its bone stock. No forend work, triggrr job, nuthin. So guess ill leave that one as is. Its not great but entirely usable for yotes IMHO

Ruger only makes 3 calibers a year with No1 rifles. Never know when they will get out a 45/70 again.

 

[Michigan Slim]

I don't care so much about knockdown power. I like big holes to let their inside outside.

Speaking of that I was talking to my father about getting a 45/70 single shot rifle for deer hunting. I like the Henry single shot.

They make me giggle. Sometimes they make me say OWWWWE, but mostly I giggle.

 

[Onebad06vtx]

What is that comparable to? 45/70 energy wise?

the 358 wssm pushes a 225 gr bullet at 2600fps equals 3378 foot pounds of energy.
The 45 70 energy is between 3000 and 3600 footpounds

 

[Hookeye]

Ruger only makes 3 calibers a year with No1 rifles. Never know when they will get out a 45/70 again.

Used they are often for sale. That redpad doesnt do much to tame the smack. They did the 1S w 22" bbl which I think looks fantastic. The .460.and .44 stuff is shorter and doesnt look as good.
There was a run of longer bbl .45 -70 but I forget what designation those had.

 

[DadSmith]

Used they are often for sale. That redpad doesnt do much to tame the smack. They did the 1S w 22" bbl which I think looks fantastic. The .460.and .44 stuff is shorter and doesnt look as good.
There was a run of longer bbl .45 -70 but I forget what designation those had.

Henry single shot rifle

 

[KellyinAvon]

Makes me think they are tier one operators.

The hunters or the deer?

 

[DadSmith]

The hunters or the deer?

 

[Michigan Slim]

Henry single shot rifle
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An H&R Buffalo Classic is another really nice, affordable shooter.

 

[phatgemi]

A buddy of mine took a buck with his this year. Said it knocked the deer back 4 feet and into a ravine. DRT.

throwing red flag.

 

[avboiler11]

throwing red flag.

Only 45ACP does that...

 

[bertgummershk91]

I know a few old farmers that used 22 mag back in the day but I've always been about big energy

 

[sheepdog697]

I wouldn't personally do it unless you can reliably land a head shot.

With all of the chamberings available, why would you use something that weak for hunting? You can grab a 450 bushmaster upper for $220 from BCA.

I tend to lean towards this opinion as well.