Intended Consequences?

[JettaKnight]

I have a prediction for both of you. It won't be confined to the people who actually breached the capitol. In states with red flag laws, merely having attended a protest at the capitol on 6 Jan will be used as de facto evidence that that person should have his guns confiscated because of the obvious danger (s)he represents to the new world public order - and it will not be that long before I am proved right. Much like there used to be more demand for racism than the actual supply, in the new reality the demand for show trials of dangerous right wing insurrectionists will likely greatly exceed the supply of same

To that I say "Rutabaga".

 

[BugI02]

Feds focused on rounding up the Threepers.

Big, fat brain worms with this bunch.

Judge rules against U.S., grants bail to Oath Keeper charged in Capitol riot

The U.S. Justice Department arrested another alleged associate of the anti-government Oath Keepers militia on charges he took part in the Jan. 6 storming of the U.S. Capitol, 6, and a judge granted him bail on Monday, rejecting government requests to keep him detained.

www.reuters.com

Adult male population of the United States: ~101,000,000

(0.03) x 101,000,000 = 3,030,000

That's going to be quite the roundup

“I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is "needed" before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents' "interests," I shall reply that I was informed that their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can.”
― Barry Goldwater

 

[JettaKnight]

Adult male population of the United States: ~101,000,000

(0.03) x 101,000,000 = 3,030,000

That's going to be quite the roundup

Or maybe that whole III% thing really is a myth.

 

[Bill of Rights]

I have also heard that Amazon has done this but I can’t find independent verification that they have. I haven’t spent much time looking though, so it may be. But if it is, it’s probably just the six books affected. You can still buy many dr suess books on Amazon Kindle right now.

And if Amazon did remove the books from people’s accounts it is more likely that it’s that the publisher revoked the agreement with Amazon to sell digitally. This has happened before like that.

If that is the case, and a buyer *purchased* (past tense) the book, then Amazon is not "selling" (present continuous tense) the book, digitally or otherwise. To remove it after the sale would seem to constitute theft or at a minimum, breach of contract.

If I sell you a box of JHP and then I (stupidly) move to New Jersey, I cannot come and take those cartridges back on the basis that I am not allowed to sell them anymore.

I do agree that the majority of this may well be the Streisand effect.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[defaultdotxbe]

If that is the case, and a buyer *purchased* (past tense) the book, then Amazon is not "selling" (present continuous tense) the book, digitally or otherwise. To remove it after the sale would seem to constitute theft or at a minimum, breach of contract.

If I sell you a box of JHP and then I (stupidly) move to New Jersey, I cannot come and take those cartridges back on the basis that I am not allowed to sell them anymore.

I do agree that the majority of this may well be the Streisand effect.

Blessings,
Bill

With digital purchases it works a bit differently. Amazon might remove it from people's libraries preventing them from downloading it again if they delete the file from their device. This is covered in the contract for most (if not all) digital purchases, the seller isn't required to serve you new copies of the digital media forever

 

[Kutnupe14]

With digital purchases it works a bit differently. Amazon might remove it from people's libraries preventing them from downloading it again if they delete the file from their device. This is covered in the contract for most (if not all) digital purchases, the seller isn't required to serve you new copies of the digital media forever

This. Bezos has an army of lawyers that I'm sure have their butts covered... at the very least, I would suspect that they have a clause for re-imbursement if they have to remove a digital title for whatever reason.

I do have a question for you though. What about streaming movies that someone has bought? Since they aren't downloaded, what the rule behind that?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

This. Bezos has an army of lawyers that I'm sure have their butts covered... at the very least, I would suspect that they have a clause for re-imbursement if they have to remove a digital title for whatever reason.

I do have a question for you though. What about streaming movies that someone has bought? Since they aren't downloaded, what the rule behind that?

You actually can download them via the app, but like Kindle books you need to use the app to watch them offline (due to DRM) I would assume it works the same way, as long as you have the file you can watch it but at some point you won't be able to redownload it. That's also how it is with downloaded video games

Of course with videos most people never download in the first place, so if it gets pulled then most people will lose access to it immediately

 

[Electric_Rooster]

There's a significant difference between protesters and rioters.

Not to the dems. Remember conservatives are now domestic terrorists for supporting Trump

 

[Electric_Rooster]

What about these guys, just yesterday? They actually were seeking blood.

11 cops injured. Are these rioters insurrectionists?

28 arrests, 11 officers hurt in MLK Day protest in Brooklyn, Manhattan

A Black Lives Matter protest in Brooklyn and Lower Manhattan on Martin Luther King Day ended with protesters clashing with police, resulting in more than two dozen arrests and 11 officers injured.

abc7ny.com

But hey, that's ok because they belong to BLM and BLM are the downtrodden good guys

 

[rooster]

Or maybe that whole III% thing really is a myth.

Might be. If push came to shove I think the number would be much higher.

 

[NHT3]

Not every convicted felon is prosecuted for gun charges, it depends on who you are and where you are. Google up Snoop dogg.

 

[jamil]

I have a prediction for both of you. It won't be confined to the people who actually breached the capitol. In states with red flag laws, merely having attended a protest at the capitol on 6 Jan will be used as de facto evidence that that person should have his guns confiscated because of the obvious danger (s)he represents to the new world public order - and it will not be that long before I am proved right. Much like there used to be more demand for racism than the actual supply, in the new reality the demand for show trials of dangerous right wing insurrectionists will likely greatly exceed the supply of same

If you were offering to bet on it, I would not take that bet.

 

[BigRed]

Yeah, I am aware. No Disney anything in our house. I made that call a couple of years ago. Disheartening

Disney is pure ****.

 

[IndyDave1776]

To that I say "Rutabaga".

Is that Allencountyese for "the Senate will save us"?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Disney is pure ****.

Sad when you consider that Walt worked with the FBI to identify communists working against us.

 

[jamil]

Is that Allencountyese for "the Senate will save us"?

I think it means that he wants you to use the word “rutabaga” in every post.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I think it means that he wants you to use the word “rutabaga” in every post.

Please tell me he doesn't put rutabagas on his pizza with pineapple.

 

[jamil]

Please tell me he doesn't put rutabagas on his pizza with pineapple.

I wouldn’t put it past him. Those pineapple people are sneaky.

 

[JettaKnight]

Is that Allencountyese for "the Senate will save us"?

It makes it easier to search and find predictions when they do prove to be false.

I think it means that he wants you to use the word “rutabaga” in every post.

 

[BugI02]

It makes it easier to search and find predictions when they do prove to be false.

What about the ones that prove correct? Lose interest?