Indy man arrested for murder of man who tried to steal his car

[bobzilla]

OK, but do you have a gun that takes an hour, or a week from the perpetrator's life? That would be just.

No, its really simple. Don't steal **** from people and you live. Done.

 

[injb]

Eh, as BugI mentions, if the driver fled and put the shooter in danger of great bodily harm or death with his actions, there could be a legitimate argument for self-defense.

Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable and doubly so when "reported" by the media, which is why I'm interested in the surveillance video.

Fair point!

 

[actaeon277]

OK, but do you have a gun that takes an hour, or a week from the perpetrator's life? That would be just.

The 'perp' made that decision.

 

[smokingman]

OK, but do you have a gun that takes an hour, or a week from the perpetrator's life? That would be just.

If the perpetrator took any action that put life in immediate danger shooting them is acceptable period by law.

injb
"I am not a US citizen so I obviously don't qualify for this"

Jury duty

I just received a post card in the mail that says "YOU ARE ORDERED TO CALL (317) 327-8992 WITHIN THE NEXT 14 DAYS TO QUALIFY FOR JURY SERVICE...". It goes on to make threats about being found in contempt of court etc. I am not a US citizen so I obviously don't qualify for this but it's not clear...

www.indianagunowners.com

You will not be on the jury.

 

[Tombs]

OK, but do you have a gun that takes an hour, or a week from the perpetrator's life? That would be just.

If someone wants to run around stealing people's things, they've accepted and consented to the consequence of being shot.

If they don't consent, then they can just not attempt to forcibly take other people's property.

 

[BR8818]

Wow that article is disgusting! So I'm supposed to go around fist fighting people that want to steal my **** that I paid for? I dont think so. Hopefully the charges are dropped against this guy.

 

[indykid]

It is sad that the victim of the crime of Grand Theft Auto is now the criminal because he used deadly force to try to stop the theft of his hard earned possession.

At some point that great statement from a movie comes to mind. To paraphrase, I have had enough and I am not taking anymore. I think the car owner was at that point, but will wait to find out if a court agrees.

 

[Doug]

What he did was not legal, but I would hope for jury nullification.

 

[duanewade]

From the bits n pieces that I have read through various news sources the perp was shot while driving away from the shooter and the shooter was not in danger of being ran over nor was anyone else in danger. At this point my car is not worth the risk of spending any time whatsoever in jail.

Just my opinion, Stand your ground does not apply here. Once that threat of imminent danger is gone we lose our reasonable cause of justifiable homicide. If the perp was shot trying to carjack that is another story.

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[indykid]

When things go in one direction, you never know what would have happened if things went in another direction.

To explain, a policeman sees a student enter a school with a gun and does nothing, 20 children get murdered. OR the policeman sees a student enter a school with a gun and stops the student. 20 children never know that they were going to die.

So this car thief was going to murder a family next week, but we will never know that because the thief can no longer carry out that deed.

That is the problem with life, one never knows what would have happened if someone took the other road in that fabled "fork in the road".

 

[bobzilla]

From the bits n pieces that I have read through various news sources the perp was shot while driving away from the shooter and the shooter was not in danger of being ran over nor was anyone else in danger. At this point my car is not worth the risk of spending any time whatsoever in jail.

Just my opinion, Stand your ground does not apply here. Once that threat of imminent danger is gone we lose our reasonable cause of justifiable homicide. If the perp was shot trying to carjack that is another story.

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We already knew that. We are still sad the car owner is getting hosed because of some piece of **** ****sucking ****tard thief

 

[Ziggidy]

I thought I read or heard the driver (thief) was shot through the drivers side window. Initial thought is the owner was not in danger.

 

[Limpy88]

Fact : There will always be crimals in the world.

Why would the owner of the car leave the keys in it and unlocked on Emerson Avenue. Shooting someone that didn't put you in danger isn't right. That's why you have insurance. If you cant afford insurance dont leave you car unlocked in a bad part of town.

 

[bobzilla]

Fact : There will always be crimals in the world.

Why would the owner of the car leave the keys in it and unlocked on Emerson Avenue. Shooting someone that didn't put you in danger isn't right. That's why you have insurance. If you cant afford insurance dont leave you car unlocked in a bad part of town.

Or don't steal peoples **** and stay alive.
EDIT: I know this is a strange concept in Marion county because there are zero criminal consequences. Not stealing is apparently hard.

 

[BugI02]

Wow that article is disgusting! So I'm supposed to go around fist fighting people that want to steal my **** that I paid for? I dont think so. Hopefully the charges are dropped against this guy.

He could try not leaving the keys in the car - ever

 

[tsm]

When things go in one direction, you never know what would have happened if things went in another direction.

To explain, a policeman sees a student enter a school with a gun and does nothing, 20 children get murdered. OR the policeman sees a student enter a school with a gun and stops the student. 20 children never know that they were going to die.

So this car thief was going to murder a family next week, but we will never know that because the thief can no longer carry out that deed.

That is the problem with life, one never knows what would have happened if someone took the other road in that fabled "fork in the road".

Be optimistic. In an infinite multiverse all “fork in the road” possibilities actually occur, including ones where the laws are like Texas’ and the jury exonerates the victim! Or the victim’s shot misses but the perp crashes the car into a Tesla which immediately causes the battery to burst into flames incinerating the perp. Does multiverse karma exist?

 

[xwing]

Did anyone read the article? The thief stole it from another thief. The man now in jail for murder stole that car months ago, and is just mad that someone else stole his already purloined ride. Both are scum, and good riddance!

"You are trying to kidnap what I have rightfully stolen, and I think it quite ungentlemanly."

 

[bobzilla]

Did anyone read the article? The thief stole it from another thief. The man now in jail for murder stole that car months ago, and is just mad that someone else stole his already purloined ride. Both are scum, and good riddance!

"You are trying to kidnap what I have rightfully stolen, and I think it quite ungentlemanly."

they just updated it 11 minutes ago. So most of us that read the article the first time or two probably did not.

 

[xwing]

they just updated it 11 minutes ago. So most of us that read the article the first time or two probably did not.

Good timing on my part. I guess that changes the picture

 

[bobzilla]

Good timing on my part. I guess that changes the picture

yes in light of that... **** em both.