I am sure we all agree with you but now that so many have had so much taken It is responsibility to one’s family to get the strategy right to get some back…Also: forcing me to contribute to Social Security is both theft and forced wealth redistribution, and as such is immoral. I want the option to remove myself from the system. I could use that 12.5% of my income much better than the government ever will.
I worked with people that had a pension option I'm guessing before sometime in the 70s to not pay into SS. They got a larger pension percentage as a result. I don't know the real numbers but people typically retired with around 50% of their salary and this group would get 75%. This always seemed like a good deal to me. Those days are long gone.Also: forcing me to contribute to Social Security is both theft and forced wealth redistribution, and as such is immoral. I want the option to remove myself from the system. I could use that 12.5% of my income much better than the government ever will.
It is still their responsibility, not my responsibility. I don't consider it my responsibility to pay for anyone else's retirement than I consider it my responsibility to pay anyone else's student debt.I am sure we all agree with you but now that so many have had so much taken It is responsibility to one’s family to get the strategy right to get some back…
I don't want any government option. I want to opt out. I want to keep the money that I have earned, and spend, save, or invest it as I see fit. I willingly take responsibility for my own retirement - which I have to do, anyway, because it is an absolute pipe dream that there will be any of my "Social Security" in 25 years.I worked with people that had a pension option I'm guessing before sometime in the 70s to not pay into SS. They got a larger pension percentage as a result. I don't know the real numbers but people typically retired with around 50% of their salary and this group would get 75%. This always seemed like a good deal to me. Those days are long gone.
I said exactly that 25 years ago but here we are...I don't want any government option. I want to opt out. I want to keep the money that I have earned, and spend, save, or invest it as I see fit. I willingly take responsibility for my own retirement - which I have to do, anyway, because it is an absolute pipe dream that there will be any of my "Social Security" in 25 years.
This is just another example of how government divides us. We all paid in, in my case if I retired at 62 I would have to live 80 years to get my money back and if I retire at 70 it would be 50 years to break even. Most all of us lose on this deal.It is still their responsibility, not my responsibility. I don't consider it my responsibility to pay for anyone else's retirement than I consider it my responsibility to pay anyone else's student debt.
Perhaps those people should have paid more attention when the government was spending their retirement money out of the alleged lockbox. Not my fault.
My girl works in management for GM, shes 19 yrs younger. My plan is to jump to her plan in 2 1/2 yrs and ride that into The Sunset until the Pale Horse shows up.I was on my wife’s plan thru her work for 30 years. She didn’t retire until 67 ( I was 66 ). I was always self employed so it was much cheaper thru her.
To stop the further hijack I am posting a thread to discuss further.
I'm in the same age group - no regrets starting early, 63 in my case.Curious about the pros and cons of starting Social Security earlier than Full Retirement Age (In my case - age 67). I plan on retiring from my job at age 62. Most of my older friends all started drawing as soon as they could. What are your thoughts?
Interesting. I don't read a lot of articles advising to wait until 70 to earn the maximum benefit.Some good info to add to this thread.
4 Tricks to Maximize Your Social Security Benefits
A family with two high-earners can receive benefits totaling as much as $100,000 a year combined if both defer collecting until age 70. Here's how.www.barrons.com
What's her phone number?I retired at 53. Took a lump sum instead of a pension. I turn 62 in February. I'm planning on drawing my SS then. We're pretty lucky that we planned this out in our 20s. Between my buyout and my wife's 401k we'll have close to $4million saved up by the time my wife retires. Unfortunately she's got another 7 yrs left before that time. So I'll either spend my last few golden yrs really well off or..... I just set husband #2 up like he hit the lottery.