How is Romney better than Obama?

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  • ViperJock

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    Romney is Obama-lite

    Obama-lite is better than full strength. There is your answer OP. The other way it makes sense to vote for Romney is that he will be a first term vs second term president. His base will keep him in line better.

    You know, or just write in someone--and give a wink and a nod to Obama again.
     

    hornadylnl

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    I've said what I wanted and arguing with some of you is an exercise in futility. I'm going to vote for the person that I think has the best chance of beating Obama and hopefully stop some of the downward spiral this country is suffering under the present administration. You are free to vote for the candidate you like, as it should be, but don't tell me how your vote is sending a message of protest and might change things in future elections. We need help NOW and not in the future. :twocents: :patriot:

    Then don't tell me I'm voting for Obama or how Romney is going to fix anything.

    Funny how third party supporters deserved to be preached to but aren't allowed to preach back.
     

    hornadylnl

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    Obama-lite is better than full strength. There is your answer OP. The other way it makes sense to vote for Romney is that he will be a first term vs second term president. His base will keep him in line better.

    You know, or just write in someone--and give a wink and a nod to Obama again.

    Because Bush's base kept him in line so well. Again, how does Romney's base have any power over Romney's actions when he knows there's absolutely nothing he can do to lose your vote? If Romney wins, he knows he can count on your vote next election to because he'll be better than whatever the dems put up against him.
     

    ViperJock

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    But what happens if he wins? Will he really cut govt. spending in a meaningful way? Will he really appoint originalist justices?

    Maybe? Maybe not. We already know what Obama would do. We can hope that Mitt would do right by us. It blows my mind how many people would rather walk into a ****house instead opening door number 2 with at least a possibility that it is not a ****house. But then I remember that this is INGO and people here know the future. By the way, who will win the KY Derby this year? I hope its a long shot, I could use a sure thing on a long shot.
     
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    Obama-lite is better than full strength. There is your answer OP. The other way it makes sense to vote for Romney is that he will be a first term vs second term president. His base will keep him in line better.

    Just like how Bush had to wait for the PATRIOT Act because his base didn't let the reins loose until year 5.

    The best part is that if moderate-to-liberal Romney gets elected, he can give us 8 more years of Obama where as Obama can only give us 4 more years of Obama. :rockwoot:

    Maybe? Maybe not. We already know what Obama would do. We can hope that Mitt would do right by us. It blows my mind how many people would rather walk into a ****house instead opening door number 2 with at least a possibility that it is not a ****house. But then I remember that this is INGO and people here know the future. By the way, who will win the KY Derby this year? I hope its a long shot, I could use a sure thing on a long shot.

    Except that door number 2 has a past that looked like a ****house. Sure he favored liberal judicial appointments as governor and made numerous comments that don't align with most conservatives on a number of topics... But that was his past. How does that old saying go? Oh yeah... "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
     
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    hornadylnl

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    Maybe? Maybe not. We already know what Obama would do. We can hope that Mitt would do right by us. It blows my mind how many people would rather walk into a ****house instead opening door number 2 with at least a possibility that it is not a ****house. But then I remember that this is INGO and people here know the future. By the way, who will win the KY Derby this year? I hope its a long shot, I could use a sure thing on a long shot.

    Oh, the irony.

    What will Obama do? I was getting ready to ask you what the winning lottery numbers were as soon as I read that line and then I saw your Kentucky Derby bit.

    You believe in the idea of 2 doors but utterly dismiss the possibility of a 3rd door that you know isn't a ****house.
     

    ViperJock

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    Because Bush's base kept him in line so well. Again, how does Romney's base have any power over Romney's actions when he knows there's absolutely nothing he can do to lose your vote? If Romney wins, he knows he can count on your vote next election to because he'll be better than whatever the dems put up against him.

    Eh, I disagree. Romney knows he is only getting half his votes because people hate Obama. That is why I think he knows he is gonna have to do right by the people or he will lose in 4 years too.

    Bush was better than Obama. not much. but I'd take him over Obama again too. I know you black abnd white thinkers will spend another gazillion posts arguing this, but it is true. Every bad thing Bush did, Obama has made worse. And Bush did a few things that made sense.

    So far the only thing I agree with Obama about is that he did not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize! Good Call Barry!
     

    hornadylnl

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    Romney is more conservative than McCain

    McCain was more conservative than Bush 2

    Bush 2 was more conservative than Dole

    Dole was more conservative than Bush 1

    Bush 1 was more conservative than Reagan.



    Notice a pattern there? Please enlighten me how you are steering the direction of the republican party. If Romney loses to Obama, will the next republican nominee be more or less conservative than Romney? You'd think the republican party would take the message that they've gone to far left if Romney loses. I'll wager a box of ammo that they'll go further left. What is it they say about those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it?
     

    ViperJock

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    Oh, the irony.

    What will Obama do? I was getting ready to ask you what the winning lottery numbers were as soon as I read that line and then I saw your Kentucky Derby bit.

    You believe in the idea of 2 doors but utterly dismiss the possibility of a 3rd door that you know isn't a ****house.

    I would prefer the third door. Unfortunately, the third door is a fools errand. It is mathematically impossible to open.

    What will Obama do?? Read the ****ing papers. Check out the recent supreme court justice appointments, for example. If we give Obama another 1 or 2 appointments the Supreme court will take decades to recover. You know what he will do because he has clearly told congress that he could give a **** what they say. He has said publically that the Supreme court should not be able determin if a law is constitutional. Fast and Furious. Solyndra. Whats his name the governor of Illinois that he never knew? His budget proposal that not even the libs in the house would vote for. How many executive orders and behind the scenes appointments. The explosion of the "czars" and other unaccountable government appointments and agencies. Whispers to foreign dignitaires caught on tape. The first one oops! The second one? just stupid not to mention the content. How about the luxury vacations? How about the Mrs. spending our tax dollars on her personal entourage. How about his vacation during the first crisis our country had after he took office? How about the continual fanning of class and race warfare? I could go on but its giving me a headache. Damn fine legacy Mr. President.
     
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    Eh, I disagree. Romney knows he is only getting half his votes because people hate Obama. That is why I think he knows he is gonna have to do right by the people or he will lose in 4 years too.

    The voters are fickle. If the economy is in good shape or you can manage win the Presidential lotto and have some event occur that boosts flag waving, your chances of re-election are much better. People (including incumbents) running for office know this.

    The economy is not recovering as fast as they claimed it would turn around. Obama may be punished in the election. Romney's issue is that he is literally the poster boy for what people see as the cause of the economic meltdown. That might save Obama.

    What should hurt Obama with most people but probably won't because most people are ignorant as to the functions of the branches of government:
    1) Cracking down on whistleblowers
    2) Using DoJ to go after people legally involved with medical marijuana
    3) Expansion of CIA drone wars
    4) Failure to wind down unpopular wars as promised
    5) Push for mandate for health care coverage

    I'm sure there are more, but why list reasons to not like Obama here where the lists make themselves. :):
     

    hornadylnl

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    I would prefer the third door. Unfortunately, the third door is a fools errand. It is mathematically impossible to open.

    What will Obama do?? Read the ****ing papers. Check out the recent supreme court justice appointments, for example. If we give Obama another 1 or 2 appointments the Supreme court will take decades to recover. You know what he will do because he has clearly told congress that he could give a **** what they say. He has said publically that the Supreme court should not be able determin if a law is constitutional. Fast and Furious. Solyndra. Whats his name the governor of Illinois that he never knew? His budget proposal that not even the libs in the house would vote for. How many executive orders and behind the scenes appointments. The explosion of the "czars" and other unaccountable government appointments and agencies. Whispers to foreign dignitaires caught on tape. The first one oops! The second one? just stupid not to mention the content. How about the luxury vacations? How about the Mrs. spending our tax dollars on her personal entourage. How about his vacation during the first crisis our country had after he took office? How about the continual fanning of class and race warfare? I could go on but its giving me a headache. Damn fine legacy Mr. President.

    And the fact that Romney is going to fix anything is mathmatically impossible.

    Why is everyone so dismissive or Romney's past but Obama's past is so important? Isn't it just a teensy bit hypocritical to condemn one man for his actions and then turn around and vote for a candidate who has done the same things?

    Is there not anyone here who has a single issue that they absolutely will not compromise on? Like abortion, etc? I will not compromise my values for Romney.
     

    Bapak2ja

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    Is there not anyone here who has a single issue that they absolutely will not compromise on? Like abortion, etc? I will not compromise my values for Romney.

    I will not vote for a RINO Repooplican again. Nor will I vote for a Demonocrat. Both are set to destroy the Constitution in order to secure the power of the ruling class. A pox on both their houses!
     

    sgtonory

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    I know what Obama is going to give me. I am not sure with Romney but I do NOT think he will continue moving us toward socialism with the tenacity of Obama. So I will vote for Romney. It is a two horse race at this point.

    Ron Paul is still going strong so i would not say its a 2 house race the media just want you to think that way so you vote in another puppet of the Global Elite. A vote for Romney or Obama should be a act of treason because you know what they stand for.
     

    hornadylnl

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    Ron Paul is still going strong so i would not say its a 2 house race the media just want you to think that way so you vote in another puppet of the Global Elite. A vote for Romney or Obama should be a act of treason because you know what they stand for.

    I see you haven't had your serving yet.

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    Trav43

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    If a third party president got elected there would be a bigger stalemate in all branches of gov. Neither the dems or the gop would work with him. If there is truly to be another party they would have to make more significant gains in the house or senate to truly back up anything they say.
     

    churchmouse

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    If a third party president got elected there would be a bigger stalemate in all branches of gov. Neither the dems or the gop would work with him. If there is truly to be another party they would have to make more significant gains in the house or senate to truly back up anything they say.

    Exactly....with out the support from those body's a third party pres. powers to govern would be limited. But that would slow the train wreck we are riding wouldn't it.
     
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