Homeless Dude Living in my back yard Mars Hill Story

[Roland of Gilead]

Give the trash to the boyfriend.
I am just mean that way I guess.

I'm going to talk to the uncle when I see him. We have talked a few times over the past 2 years and a few weeks ago he brought me a beer when I was out working in the garden.

We are going to have to talk about boundaries.

 

[DanVoils]

Make sure you're packing so you have overwatch covered!

 

[pute62]

Why do you hate the GLBT's and Socialism? Come on man it's 2017! Lol

 

[Freebird01]

How is he liable for something a squatter does on his property?

Check with your insurance provider...in the eyes of the law if it's in your property..wanted or unwanted you can still be liable. Just like if some random kid drowns in your pool even if they don't have permission to be there...

 

[Alamo]

How is he liable for something a squatter does on his property?

I think Freebird01 has a point. If he really is a squatter, a true trespasser, then Roland's liability is at its lowest, but probably still not zero. Don't know how Indiana law approaches it, but there is the possibility that Roland owes a duty even to trespassers to not present unusual hazards to them; for example, if Roland had excavated the backyard to put in a pool, didn't put up any warning tape or fencing (or even if he did) and squatter/trespasser falls into it in the dark and gets impaled on some rebar...that might be sticky. Especially if squatter/trespasser turns out to be underage. Or maybe squatter/trespasser takes some unsecured pickax from the pool project and goes and murders his BF and BF's uncle.

If Roland knows the squatter is there and either does nothing about it or even gives him a break and grants him permission to stay for a couple hours/days/whatever, then I think his liability for the squatter's actions increases quite a bit -- he's no longer a trespasser, but maybe then legally an invited or social guest? Then if clumsy falls into the partially constructed pool, or gets bitten by the dog, or falls asleep smoking dope and starts a wildland fire that burns down the neighborhood, or maybe worst of all hurts one of Roland's real guests, or a neighbor -- then I think the liability question gets stickier.

Not saying that Roland would be found liable in any of these suppositions, but might be nerve-wracking and expensive to find out in court.

Best to get the cops to remove the squatter ASAP, and if he needs a place to stay, give him the address of the nearest homeless shelter.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Now the homeless guy is laying on the front porch of the closed down church across the street. He is maybe 20 5'8" and 120 lbs. He behaves very immature.

I'd say the threat level is pretty low with our neighborhood little homeless homosexual. He is looking at his phone and snacking.

The old preacher just showed up so we shall see.

Interesting. Per our conversation at the training, I know about where you live. If that closed down church just closed in the last couple months, Thats not the preacher. He was transferred out last month to a rural church far away from here. (I attend the sister church and he was my pastor too) So Im not sure who that was.

 

[SSGSAD]

BUILD A WALL !!!!!

Make your property GREAT again !!!!! .....

I am glad it all worked out for you !!!!!

 

[oldpink]

You couldn't have handled it better, and the IMPD representative sounds like a real professional.
You're quite right that the neighbor needs to be made to understand that he can't just send f-buddies off to camp out on your property.
The rest of your posts gives the impression that you already understand how to be firm while still being polite, so you should be able to handle that part just as well as the eviction process.

 

[vitamink]

Check with your insurance provider...in the eyes of the law if it's in your property..wanted or unwanted you can still be liable. Just like if some random kid drowns in your pool even if they don't have permission to be there...

If a random kid downs in your pool, the impending lawsuit is on the basis of "attractive nuisance". It doesn't apply to adults. An adult is smart enough to understand the consequences of jumping in someone else's pool.

 

[Roland of Gilead]

Interesting. Per our conversation at the training, I know about where you live. If that closed down church just closed in the last couple months, Thats not the preacher. He was transferred out last month to a rural church far away from here. (I attend the sister church and he was my pastor too) So Im not sure who that was.

I stand corrected it was not the preacher. It was a guy and who I had seen working at the church and associated his truck (nice gray ford) to the preacher. The wife told me last night it was not the preacher.

This morning when I went to work the homeless kid was sleeping on the front porch of the church.

 

[Tactically Fat]

How is he liable for something a squatter does on his property?

Wouldn't it be akin to someone tripping and breaking an arm/let on a sidewalk that runs through the edge of a property?

Or would it not be the same because sidewalks are "public" and expected to be walked upon?

 

[KittySlayer]

If a random kid downs in your pool, the impending lawsuit is on the basis of "attractive nuisance". It doesn't apply to adults. An adult is smart enough to understand the consequences of jumping in someone else's pool.

That is quite a leap there based on some adults I have run into.

 

[jamil]

When I saw the title I wondered what thread this was spoofing.

Wow. Crazy story. Definitely establish boundaries with the neighbors.

 

[Expat]

tl;dr
is this one of those penthouse forum stories...

 

[jamil]

tl;dr
is this one of those penthouse forum stories...

It does include a sort of bromance story, so could be that.

 

[churchmouse]

I would have the young man (?) removed again. This would not fly around here. You are a very kind person and good on you but this behavior is just spooky.

The Uncle needs to be made aware of what his charge is up to before something serious happens.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Hey count yourself lucky. At least it's just some homeless guy that was camping on your property. Not a extremely mentally ill clown (literally) camping in your house for who knows how long...

And yes I'm serious didn't happen to me but in the 80s up in NWI it did. The parents were going out for a date night and the baby sitter came over. They told her that one of the two little kids had been having nightmares about a clown. She ended up having to go down to the basement and saw a life size clown statue. The Mom called a little later to check in and the babysitter mentioned that the clown statue in the basement might be the cause of the nightmare. The Mom said we don't have a clown statue... Needless to say panic ensued.

Sitter and kids got the heck out of dodge while Mom called the police. The guy was known to the police and was long gone in the head but supposedly harmless. He had gotten in and had been living in the basement for an unknown length of time, wandering the house at night, and eating their food.

Wow. Crazy story.

See above.

 

[IndyDave1776]

tl;dr
is this one of those penthouse forum stories...

Funny you would draw this connection. A similar story I remember is the time a friend who at the time was a manager at the Flying J at Haubstadt became aware of a non-customer malingering on the property. Joe followed the guy (who had a significant head start) across the parking lot toward the shrubbery growing at the corner of the property. By the time he got there, he discovered that there were in fact two squatters (at least of opposite gender) and I'll give you one guess what the two of them were doing by the time Joe got to the tent. Definitely a 'what has been seen cannot be unseen' moment!

 

[Expat]

Funny you would draw this connection. A similar story I remember is the time a friend who at the time was a manager at the Flying J at Haubstadt became aware of a non-customer malingering on the property. Joe followed the guy (who had a significant head start) across the parking lot toward the shrubbery growing at the corner of the property. By the time he got there, he discovered that there were in fact two squatters (at least of opposite gender) and I'll give you one guess what the two of them were doing by the time Joe got to the tent. Definitely a 'what has been seen cannot be unseen' moment!

 

[cosermann]

Hey count yourself lucky. At least it's just some homeless guy that was camping on your property. Not a extremely mentally ill clown (literally) camping in your house for who knows how long...

And yes I'm serious didn't happen to me but in the 80s up in NWI it did. The parents were going out for a date night and the baby sitter came over. They told her that one of the two little kids had been having nightmares about a clown. She ended up having to go down to the basement and saw a life size clown statue. The Mom called a little later to check in and the babysitter mentioned that the clown statue in the basement might be the cause of the nightmare. The Mom said we don't have a clown statue... Needless to say panic ensued. ....

Interesting how similar this is - Home Intruder Poses as Clown Statue