Here come the Biden gun control EOs...

[BigRed]

On that *** wipe Chipen.

 

[Brad69]

Meanwhile the NRA is fighting in court about a yacht?

NRA exec sheltered on borrowed yacht after mass shootings

After school shootings that left dozens dead in recent years, National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre said the resulting outrage put him in such danger that he sought shelter aboard a friend’s 108-foot yacht.

apnews.com

 

[foszoe]

Meanwhile the NRA is fighting in court about a yacht?

NRA exec sheltered on borrowed yacht after mass shootings

After school shootings that left dozens dead in recent years, National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre said the resulting outrage put him in such danger that he sought shelter aboard a friend’s 108-foot yacht.

apnews.com

Yeah. The posts about BLM leaders buying houses made me think about Wayne and his yacht trips

I wish he would just go away.

 

[Sigblaster]

At the risk of being unpopular, other than demonstrating good ingenuity, what practical purpose does a bump stock serve?

This question is just a deflection from the core issue involved. Regardless of the practicality of the item, from where does the government derive the POWER to ban such a thing?

The Constitution defines the powers of the federal government. It also imposes limitations on those powers. In this case, specifically through the Second Amendment. "Shall not be infringed" certainly carries more weight than any reason that can be given for the government's power to ban or regulate any firearm accessory.

"Because I can" is a better argument against a ban than it is for the government's power to impose a ban. "Because I can" is NOT a valid argument for the government imposing a ban. The government CAN do many things, but that doesn't mean that they are acting within their Constitutional authority. The only reason the government gets away with it it is because the people don't rise up and say "That's not within the scope of the powers WE have granted to you, so no, you CAN'T".

So I counter your question with one of my own- what gives the federal government the power to institute a ban on firearm accessories?

 

[actaeon277]

Actually there is a very good chance that by using a bumpstock he lowered his count. Aimed fire could have been much more effective.

I've made the same point to people.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I just want you to know that I admire you and your posts. Always wish I had some carpentry skills. The older I get the more I wish it. Wife wants me to build a pony wall this year and it will be up to me and youtube!

That should be easier than building a pony!

 

[jamil]

The the only use that you've seen is because that's the only one that was highly publicized. I have friends that go to the range or wherever and pop off with a bump stock. Personally I think it's stupid think it's a waste of money that you could practice and do more with all that ammunition however that's not a reason not to Advocate against ownership. They do it to have fun. I like to stand out on the back deck naked and **** off into the grass for fun but it's probably not a real practical reason to do it

If my experience with something is only what I've seen in a media that has proven to be hostile in general to the 2nd Amendment and gun owners, than I would be very hesitant to use that as a basis point for forming an opinion.

The practical reason to do it is so that you don’t make a mess in the house.Thanks for the advice.

 

[KG1]

On that *** wipe Chipen.

**** that condescending POS and the POS that picked him. They don’t give a rats ass about the rights of the people to keep and bear arms.

It’s clearly evident by the comment that Biden’s toadie Chipman made.

 

[BigRed]

**** that condescending POS and the POS that picked him. They don’t give a rats ass about the rights of the people to keep and bear arms.

It’s clearly evident by the comment that Biden’s toadie Chipman made.

Chipman fits the profile of an atf jack wad perfectly.

Takes an oath the protect and defend the constitution of the united States, then spends his career stomping on the constitution at every turn.

He can go to Hell.

 

[jamil]

Yes, some things can just be for fun. MAN, a lot of people read WAY TOO much into this question. I'm anti-bumpstock, I'm not pro-bumpstock, I'm just trying to understand practically because that's how my mind works.
I'm also not saying because something is impractical, someone shouldn't own it.

Maybe people read things into the question because they can’t find any practical reasons to ask it. And then you gave the answer, probably one they suspected all along. You’re anti-bumpstock. So it’s not reading too deeply to suspect your question is more about asking people to justify owning one since you’re against it.

When bump-stocks first came out it was all about the novelty and fun. It’s a way to experience something much closer to full auto fire without having the tax stamp. No one uses these things for practical use other than maybe training, but mostly fun. I’d never spend my own money on one but I’d spend yours.

 

[KG1]

Chipman fits the profile of an atf jack wad perfectly.

Takes an oath the protect and defend the constitution of the united States, then spends his career stomping on the constitution at every turn.

He can go to Hell.

He's a ****ing biased gun grabbing ringer that doesn't have any business being head of the ATF.

It also says a lot about the agenda of who selected him for that role.

 

[jsx1043]

Rare (well, maybe not so much around here these days) hat turned into INGO lost and found:



Please PM Churchmouse to pick it up.

 

[IndyDave1776]

He's a ****ing biased gun grabbing ringer that doesn't have any business being head of the ATF.

It also says a lot about the agenda of who selected him for that role.

As far as I am concerned that SOB should be in prison, not only as a domestic enemy in general but specifically for his participation in the Waco raid.

 

[Leadeye]

Put me down as against all of this. You can't declare guns as legal for decades then suddenly by imperial fiat declare them illegal. How many of millions of dollars have been spent "in reliance upon" what the gubmint told us.

Sure you can, it's done with chemicals everyday.

 

[BigRed]

He's a ****ing biased gun grabbing ringer that doesn't have any business being head of the ATF.

It also says a lot about the agenda of who selected him for that role.

It is what some here voted for.

 

[DadSmith]

I bet a lot of Republicans will go along with his appointment.

 

[BigRed]

I bet a lot of Republicans will go along with his appointment.

You can count on it.

 

[KG1]

Show me where "ghost" guns have played a pivotal role in the rise of violence committed with guns. Same goes for pistol braces. This whole thing with pistol braces is a load of bunk. If they are being used to primarily circumvent the regulation of sbrs like they claim then that just proves the point about how stupid and unnecessary the regulation is.

There are many thousands of pistol braces in use out there with no statistically significant influx in violence committed to speak of while using them.

This ******** has got me wound up this morning.

 

[KG1]

As far as I am concerned that SOB should be in prison, not only as a domestic enemy in general but specifically for his participation in the Waco raid.

He's a proven shining example of the type that would go door to door and try to carry out gun confiscations.

They ARE out there.

 

[sheepdog697]

If these pass, we should definitely see ammo prices come down. The availability should go up as well.